cm
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Post by cm on Oct 8, 2009 23:19:24 GMT -5
I believe in affirmative action for those who suffer economic difficulties rather than by race. I believe this is the best way to turning nations into true meritocracies.
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Post by Ganbare! on Oct 10, 2009 5:08:41 GMT -5
Frankly this will never happen, there are way too many inequalities related to your very birth. Indeed no one chooses his family, promoted values, social network, ethos etc will always favor the upper class no matter how much money the government is handing out to poor people.
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Post by milkman's baby on Oct 10, 2009 12:34:28 GMT -5
I believe in affirmative action for those who suffer economic difficulties rather than by race. I believe this is the best way to turning nations into true meritocracies. I agree, for two applicants applying to a university it is very clear that the upper class kid from the suburbs who went to a Blue Ribbon high school had more opportunities and resources than a kid from a working class family who went to a crummy school in the inner city or a really rural area. You can't compare the two applicants on the same level, because they just aren't the same. Many schools already practice this.
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Post by Ganbare! on Oct 10, 2009 12:47:45 GMT -5
The racial factor is still more prominent in higher education in terms of admission/financial aid etc
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Post by palaver on Oct 10, 2009 18:06:54 GMT -5
I believe in affirmative action for those who suffer economic difficulties rather than by race. I believe this is the best way to turning nations into true meritocracies. Spoken like an enlightened liberal. Excerpt: And, not content with pretending that our real problem is cultural difference rather than economic difference, we have also started to treat economic difference as if it were cultural difference. [...] The trick, in other words, is to stop thinking of poverty as a disadvantage, and once you stop thinking of it as a disadvantage then, of course, you no longer need to worry about getting rid of it. More generally, the trick is to think of inequality as a consequence of our prejudices rather than as a consequence of our social system and thus to turn the project of creating a more egalitarian society into the project of getting people (ourselves and, especially, others) to stop being racist, sexist, classist homophobes. This book is an attack on that trick.
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Post by Ganbare! on May 21, 2010 0:24:15 GMT -5
^This excerpt shows how race-obsessed American society and psyche really are. How many years did it take this journalist to come up with such a reasoning? Western Europeans have never taken race into consideration to solve income disparities, it must explain why the region is more meritocratic than the USA regardless of the s***load of tales the entertainment industry and particularly Hollywood tell every year about recent immigrants, minimum wage workers or college dropouts making it big. As time passes by I find myself supporting equality less and less, not because I'm afraid of paying huge taxes as I'll certainly evade them legally by working in international civil service but because I am starting to think the world would be less advanced if people were less enticed to innovate because of tax burden and income redistribution. Beyond moral ideals behind equality, we should not forget that progress efficiency is what our civilization has always strived for, much more than happiness. Would a society where the lower middle/working class with better healthcare and education be more inventive than our current model where the main innovator is the entrepreneurial/academic upper class? Despite my political leanings I'm starting to question the desirability of parity however from a philosophical standpoint it undoubtedly is. The only thing I'm sure is that the US would be a completely different country, prominent figures like the King of pop or Billou Gates would certainly not exist in such a world replaced by either superior/inferior alternatives, we will never know.
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