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Post by Tricky on May 25, 2005 23:01:49 GMT -5
What if Whites and Asians were descended from Kazakhs and Central Asians. And Whites and Asians are only the more recognised races/ethnicities.
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Post by vick on May 26, 2005 6:24:10 GMT -5
As far I know it was always considered that all races came from African continent. But its is also said that "Central Asia as the "nursery" of human civilization, from which all other cultures draw a common influence." As far as the races of Middle Asia, some of them belong to Caucasoids, others are Eurasians, I am sure there are some Mongoloids there too. The term Eurasian refers to the cultural ties and linkages between those in a wider view of the Eurasian continent, centering on the Silk Road, and Central Asia as the "nursery" of human civilization, from which all other cultures draw a common influence. African-Eurasian aspect of Earth Eurasia is the combined land mass of Europe and Asia. ... Articles related to The Great Silk Road. ... Map of Central Asia outlined in orange showing one set of possible borders Central Asia located as a region of the world Central Asia is a vast landlocked region of Asia. ... However in English vernacular, "Eurasian" is a term that refers to those of mixed European and Asian (or ancestry —increasingly by mixed parentage as a fact of modern transculturation. More precise descriptions may include Nordic/Baltic/Slavic/Celtic linkages with people of Chinese/Indian/Afghani/Turkic/Mongolian (etc) www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/CaucasoidCaucasoid describes humans primarily from Europe, the Middle East (Western Asia), North Africa, most parts of the Indian subcontinent as well as parts of Central Asia, and was one of the four major races recognized by nineteenth century racial theories. Download high resolution version (696x1046, 18 KB)Caucasoid Racial type skull This work is copyrighted. ... Download high resolution version (696x1046, 18 KB)Caucasoid Racial type skull This work is copyrighted. ... World map showing location of Europe A satellite composite image of Europe Europe is geologically and geographically a peninsula, forming the westernmost part of Eurasia. ... A map showing countries commonly considered to be part of the Middle East The Middle East is a region comprising the lands around the southern and eastern parts of the Mediterranean Sea, a territory that extends from the eastern Mediterranean Sea to the Persian Gulf. ... A map showing Southwest Asia - The term Middle East is more often used to refer to both Southwest Asia and some North African countries Southwest Asia, or West Asia, is the southwestern part of Asia. ... North Africa is a region generally considered to include: Algeria Egypt Libya Mauritania Morocco Sudan Tunisia Western Sahara The Canary Islands, Ethiopia, Eritrea and Madeira are sometimes considered to be a part of North Africa. ... The Indian subcontinent is the peninsular region of South Asia, which includes India, Bangladesh, and Pakistan, usually also Sri Lanka, Nepal, Bhutan, and some disputed territory currently controlled by China, and sometimes Myanmar. ... Map of Central Asia outlined in orange showing one set of possible borders Central Asia located as a region of the world Central Asia is a vast landlocked region of Asia. ... A race is a distinct population of humans distinguished in some way from other humans. ... The Caucasoid race has been considered to include such ethnic groups as Indo-Europeans, Semites, Uralics, Basques, Dravidians, modern Turks, and Caucasians (from the Caucasus mountains), as well as Ethiopians. Basically anyone that has round eyes, and has skin that is any hue except jet black. In essence this a way for Eurocentric scholars to lay claim to any civilization in Africa and the middle east. This is called a diffusionist theory of the Caucasoid race and ignores that many of these groups have less in common with the unquestioned groups than with those outside their groups. For example, Dravidians and Ethiopians are more closely related to Negroid and Australoid peoples than Nordic people.
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Post by boxrebl on May 26, 2005 9:09:07 GMT -5
What if Whites and Asians were descended from Kazakhs and Central Asians. And Whites and Asians are only the more recognised races/ethnicities. GREAT point. I made that same one earlier. How do we know that "Central Asian types" were not more of a common Asian/White predecessor (V divergence) than a later re-hybrid (^ convergence)? I mean, who knows when all these divergences and convergences really took place? Currently, most seem to assume that we all diverged from Africa into Australoids and then Caucasoids, Mongoloids and Negroids. And then converged back into hybrids along those borders wherever these groups later re-met. But, it's very speculative generalization and how can you really tell if something that appears "mixed" was a re-combinant "mutt" or a pre-divergent "missing link?" Perhaps some of these "mixes" came BEFORE and not AFTER Asian/White isolation/sub-speciation?
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Post by Aiko on May 26, 2005 11:58:09 GMT -5
^Indeed, however, you have to take into account that evolution took place and people no longer look the same as their ancestors. Even if this Central Asian being the ancestor of Caucasians and Mongoloids (I still hate this word), we can say for sure that these people look exactly like half-Asian half-white people.
Another thing, it is proven true that the convergences took place. The Mongols ruled Central Asia and the people there currently are all a mix of Mongol and the people who were their originally. There are historical documents in many countries in that area with descriptions of Xiongnu and Turks. They were described as having golden locks and blue eyes. Some are redheads. I agree with one of the theories that the Turks were a Caucasian race to begin with and then other Asian tribes and the Mongols mixed with them. But of course, it's just a theory.
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Post by vick on May 26, 2005 12:18:14 GMT -5
It is true, after a Mongol invasion, many and many ethnicities looked more Mongoloid than they used to be.
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Post by zhaoesq on May 28, 2005 17:40:50 GMT -5
double, sometimes more (when tired or ill). as far as i know, 100% chinese (although might have some blood of the uyghur north-west). dread to imagine how many i'd get when i grow old!
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Post by khani on May 28, 2005 23:56:36 GMT -5
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Post by xriz on May 29, 2005 15:40:34 GMT -5
Jeymi, Boxreble and other have brought up a good point about 'race' and population movement through history.
One thing I have wondered about our concept of Race; White, Black, Asian, is how stable are these looks we associate with them.
It could be our looks as people have changed through out the centuries, take Lations. They could be considered a separate race at this point and have only exited for about 300 or less years, a result of European ‘colonization’ and mixing with the indigenous people.
I think the same argument can be used for many parts of the world and time as populations move en mass and or became isolated through out history.
I’ve heard people discuses whether ancient Egyptians were Arab White or Black but from what I’ve seen published of their drawings I’d say they were what we would consider a completely separate race then any we see today.
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Post by Tami on May 29, 2005 19:39:14 GMT -5
From that site on the first page, my eyelids are the exact definition of "tapered" lids.
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Post by sim on May 30, 2005 7:53:55 GMT -5
further proof of your dumbness. the eye you are talking about is simply a double. white people are not the only ones who have double eye lids. an eye not looking like a typical white eye doesn't make the shape any less double. maybe you should stop worrying about what to claim other peoples eyes as and just get your own eyes checked. Yeah, I think simmie is assuming that single fold eyelids means you are asian..another asian stereotype that does not hold true. People will look at you like you are stupid if you say that here in the US. I think its very ignorant if you ask me.... I don't know maybe the UK is not really expose to a lot of Asian cultures aside from India or maybe the only Asian people they see are some old Japanese tourist taking pictures..heh, i don't like to explain what people think or their position...Yeah, I look more Asian with hints of some european features. I also have a double fold eyelid, but it doesn't mean im white.. I explained what I meant later, if u had taken the time to actually read the thread before u posted. I am very exposed to Asian cultures...I was born and raised in Hong Kong.
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Post by asphyxiation on May 31, 2005 22:41:30 GMT -5
i have a double eyelid.
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Post by londongirl on Jun 6, 2005 0:48:52 GMT -5
double eyelids, though my sister kinda has single ones ;D
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Post by ...austhai/... on Jun 13, 2005 2:18:57 GMT -5
I for the most part have mono-eyelid. And damn proud of it! Last year I watched this documentary about Asian girls wanting to look more Americanized and going so far as getting surgery to correct this supposed "disfigurement" by the end of the program I didn't see that much of a change. These girls would get out of surgery and they looked like they got hit by a Mack truck. But if it makes you feel good, do it. Beauty comes with a price.
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Post by realityshift on Jun 14, 2005 11:48:32 GMT -5
I for the most part have mono-eyelid. I'm not alone
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Post by ...austhai/... on Jun 14, 2005 12:24:48 GMT -5
reality shift I love your eyes!!!!!!
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