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Post by 0 on Jan 15, 2007 20:28:16 GMT -5
Yeah, add me to that list. Vietnamese Dad with three kajillion cousins to boot. Half the members are Viet and no one can give me a damned recipe for Viet crab soup, fish sauce and crepes! Hmmmp!
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Post by j3aN62 on Jan 16, 2007 12:19:10 GMT -5
^Actually i was referring to Vietnamese EAs. I found it was interesting that the majority of Vietnamese EAs on here had a Viet father as opposed to a Viet mother. Those you mentioned...apart from Marie (hapawalnut) i dont think they are part-Vietnamese? I think we can already see the proportion between Asian mothers and Asian fathers is closer than some people might have expected judging from the results of that poll. But i was just speculating that the Vietnamese EAs might have a higher correlation of fathers being the Asian parent than EAs from other Asian ethnicities and that this could possibly be due to a cultural thing. But i have agreed with Xandra that it probably applies more to the older generation. Actually another french EA dadu has also a vietnamese father I think. As far as I know, but I have met very little with the paris EA crew so far. For france, concerning the older generation, explanation might be that immigration was mostly vietnamese males coming to france for study or work. Whole families moving is late 70s and afterwards, not before that time. Of course women would also come to study, but much less.
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Post by hapalicious on Jan 16, 2007 18:34:44 GMT -5
i ve no idea what theories you guys are spawning but here s my contribution : asian side : both Dadu and i are 1/2 viet, 1/2 chinese.... and dadu s 1/4 viet from the South, while i, 1/4 viet from the North....should it make any difference... added : but both our asian parents seem to know Vietnam better than China...although i have very close family in China...and they speak both Vietnamese and Chinese.... i speak neither ... used to know a little mandarin a while back though... am i Viet enough to participate as exhibit B ? edit : just read a bit of your theories and realize what i just added is completely irrelevant ...
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Post by j3aN62 on Jan 18, 2007 7:12:48 GMT -5
i ve no idea what theories you guys are spawning but here s my contribution : asian side : both Dadu and i are 1/2 viet, 1/2 chinese.... and dadu s 1/4 viet from the South, while i, 1/4 viet from the North....should it make any difference... Eh, I didn't know that, I thought you had both full vietnamese, on your Asian side. So that makes me the only real vietnamese EA on the paris crew. ;D But then I'm getting more curious to learn more. I know there are lots of people with Chinese origin in Vietnam, lots of them being merchants, etc.
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Post by friendswithoutcash on Jan 18, 2007 10:13:23 GMT -5
Actually another french EA dadu has also a vietnamese father I think. As far as I know, but I have met very little with the paris EA crew so far. For france, concerning the older generation, explanation might be that immigration was mostly vietnamese males coming to france for study or work. Whole families moving is late 70s and afterwards, not before that time. Of course women would also come to study, but much less. I agree very much so. Vietnamese men had it easier being able to leave Vietnam and study. But then I'm getting more curious to learn more. I know there are lots of people with Chinese origin in Vietnam, lots of them being merchants, etc. Yes there are alot of ethnic Chinese Vietnamese or Vietnamese people with Chinese origins. One of my friend's parents are ethnic Chinese but were raised in Vietnam. They are called Nguoi Hoa in Vietnamese (pronounced as "wah") i think.
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Post by j3aN62 on Jan 19, 2007 7:01:37 GMT -5
Yes there are alot of ethnic Chinese Vietnamese or Vietnamese people with Chinese origins. One of my friend's parents are ethnic Chinese but were raised in Vietnam. They are called Nguoi Hoa in Vietnamese (pronounced as "wah") i think. I read the wikipedia page, most of this part 1978, etc I never heard of that. Also that most of the boat people were ethnic Chinese. Well that part I think I read it a couple of time but didn't really pay attention to. So the half ethnic Chinese half ethnic Vietnamese mix must already have been a bit of a problem. I've heard somebody Asian using the word metis, can't remember when or where, for such a category. I found it a bit a denial for the more real metis half Asian, half European.
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Post by chinesejewfool on Jan 20, 2007 13:15:52 GMT -5
I'm suprised. I would have thought AF/WM would outweigh the AM/WF greatly. I don't see AM/WF that much to tell you teh truth, but maybe it's because all the Asian guys in school will get their white girls later because they are too focused studying like me :-D
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Post by countingcrows247 on Jan 20, 2007 14:41:17 GMT -5
I'm suprised. I would have thought AF/WM would outweigh the AM/WF greatly. I don't see AM/WF that much to tell you teh truth, but maybe it's because all the Asian guys in school will get their white girls later because they are too focused studying like me :-D lol. I don't think it has anything to do with that.. It's a game of numbers.. For every AF who marry outside their ethnicity there's an AM who also marry outside their ethnicity as well unless they come back to Asia and import their wives to the US. Any guys of any race can get any girl of any race. There's a quote "those who dare wins". I know 2 of my uncles who are Asian (mostly filipino some japanese) married two white females and the other one married a Columbian/White. Although, I see that people especially in the northeast tend to look the relationship more equal than lop sided in comparisson to AF/WM relationship. It doesn't really matter because the relationship comes between a man and a woman. I don't think its any difference if two people were of the same race. You still have to make it work. Most of my uncles are pretty happy with their wives because they married the women they love. I think that what matters instead of marrying someone white based on the assumption that the kid will have a better life. People should marry the person they love not for any benefits either socially, economically or politically. It's easier said than done. I know my uncles always emphasize to their kids who looks totally white some even have (blue eyes and dark blonde hair) where they come from and instead of working around the bias and discrimination of society that they can pass for white. They tell their kids that they shouldn't buy that white is always beautiful or superior which a lot of Asian people even EA's. haha The question we always ponder are definitely those that doesn't matter. What is my race? blah blah blah.. what about genocide, poverty, war and ethnic cleansing? I don't think race is really that important.
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Post by chinesejewfool on Jan 20, 2007 19:34:03 GMT -5
Well, I know a few Asian girls who say "I only date white guys"
Pretty sad, because i don't know ANY mexican/black/white girls who say such a silly thing like that
It seems that Asians have hte least pride in their race
But yeah, it seems it's mostly a California thing where people complain about the Af/Wm desparity. I notice people from other places don't talk about this.
But like you said, you gotta make it work on your own will.
as for the importance of race, it's growing less, but it would be irresponsible to say it doesn't affect our daily lives. It affects who is more likely to befriend us. It affects different customs. It affects who those Asian girls I know want. I try to befriend those who are indifferent about race...
In a town as diverse as Fresno, i'm just shocked at how closed minded people are here. I was talking to a girl who said "I know you are a mutt, so what kind are you? I know you are half asian, so your other half must be white?" I joked saying it was black. She said "That can't be, blacks and Asians never mix". It didn't anger me at all, because she was a ncie girl, and what she said was more out of innocent naiveness than anything, but it just summed up what I think of hte people in Fresno. 1 million population of diversity, yet when it comes to their minds, they are as white (I mean blank, not ethnically) as the tube socks I got for Christmas.
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Post by catgirl on Jan 28, 2007 15:06:49 GMT -5
My daddy is vietnamese too
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Post by cheapmonday on Feb 5, 2007 10:04:14 GMT -5
My Dad is Caucasian and my mom is Asian..so yeah.
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Post by penguinopolipitese on Apr 17, 2007 18:53:36 GMT -5
bump
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Post by cheeseprata on Apr 17, 2007 23:50:37 GMT -5
I don't fit into either of the categories....none of my parents are caucasian.
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Post by scott on Apr 18, 2007 1:36:13 GMT -5
tellie : me too
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Post by friendswithoutcash on Apr 18, 2007 1:42:53 GMT -5
Me three.
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