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Post by amalgam on May 14, 2009 9:04:12 GMT -5
Haha awesome stuff! Umm baik baik, uhh how do I respond again? I'm not good with formalities, only colloquial Indonesian, like, everyday talk.
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Post by Kalvien on May 17, 2009 2:54:59 GMT -5
chinese-dutch-javanese.
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Post by fei on May 17, 2009 18:41:15 GMT -5
Haha awesome stuff! Umm baik baik, uhh how do I respond again? I'm not good with formalities, only colloquial Indonesian, like, everyday talk. Well it good enough for me. Another indo-mix!! it keep get better and better. Hey Kalvin, welcome aboard so pleased to find few indo-mix around here. See you around bro.
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Post by Kalvien on May 18, 2009 21:54:08 GMT -5
nice to meet you too fei, glad to see I'm not the only indo here, do you speak indonesia? ^^
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Post by fei on May 19, 2009 3:55:42 GMT -5
nice to meet you too fei, glad to see I'm not the only indo here, do you speak indonesia? ^^ Yes, i can speak indo even sound like one. I used to stay in Jakarta for few months. So far found one guy who is indo-dutch at Jakarta!
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Post by Kalvien on May 20, 2009 8:52:14 GMT -5
that's nice to hear, I hope we are getting along, salam kenal
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Post by fei on May 22, 2009 6:23:43 GMT -5
that's nice to hear, I hope we are getting along, salam kenal me too man. I'll PM you if i happen to pass by Jakarta, maybe we meet up. See you around.
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Post by Dirt on May 24, 2009 6:55:28 GMT -5
spanish - pinoy lols
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Post by jenbrook on Jun 1, 2009 0:13:41 GMT -5
2/8 ethnic tanka 2/8 unsure, but there is some mongolian ancestry there 1/8 welsh 1/8 english 2/8 scottish
but basicaly 1/2 HK chinese 1/2 british
tha tankas were junk dwellers who lived off the coast of southern china and hong kong, according to wikipedia they are 'non-ethnic chinese' but my mum looks pretty chinese, although she's pretty dark and has freckles/brown streaks in her hair.. but i think thats quite usual amoung southern chinese people
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Post by Paddy on Jun 1, 2009 6:07:13 GMT -5
Tanka where a pretty interesting bunch. Tanka means 'egg families' (dan jia in Mandarin). They were the poorest of the poor who were eased off the land on to waterborne city-like aggregations of boats. They were unrecognised as citizens (by the Chinese state) and were untaxed. They made money from fishing when the seasons allowed it - and off season, they were pirates. The history of the Triads is very much tied up with the Tanka of Fujian and Guangdong.
They've been likened to the tribes to the north of China; where the sedentary agriculturalism of northern China gives way to pastoral nomadism of the Steppe, so in the south sedentary China gave way to a kind of maritime nomadism.
So Jen, with Tanka and Mongol ancestry, Welsh, Scottish and English, living on a little island in SE Asia, you're basically 100% nomad.
[Dian Murray (1987) - Pirates of the South China Coast. It's an academic text full of anecdotes of gay pirates. I have no doubt that it was researched for the making of Pirates of the Caribbean.]
Oh yeah, I reckon the Tanka are likely to have been ethnic Han Chinese as Chinese migration was generally southward in direction. Being unrecognised by the state may have been the reason for them being classed apart from the Han. Probably Hakka mixed in with them on the boats.
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Post by jenbrook on Jun 1, 2009 6:25:06 GMT -5
^Wow thanks for the very informative post, i have actually heard that the tanka were a marginalized bunch.. isnt surprising to me as my grandmother grew up in a squatter slum. How do you know so much about Tanka? Pirates eh?.. so i have pirate/warrior/viking ancestors haha.. I guess that explains my strange urges to squander and pillage. Funny, my life can be described as nothing short of nomadic.. but i think thats a conincedence
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Post by Paddy on Jun 1, 2009 7:47:18 GMT -5
Nothing breeds nomadism like cultural dislocation (and harsh territory!).
Did a dissertation for my MA entitled "The Chinese in Southeast Asia Prior to 1900: Institutions of Control and the Role of Brotherhood". Talked about pirates, tanka, triads, tin mines and rubber plantations amongst lots of other things.
Hardly anyone knows about the coastal evacuation of southern China between 1660-1683 whereby the Qing state cleared the entire coast of Guangdong, Fujian, Zhejiang so that they could catch a bunch of pirates led by a dude called Koxinga. The pirates fled to Taiwan and liberated the island from the Dutch. Though an enemy of the state, Koxinga is now seen a national hero in both the PRC and Taiwan (as well as Japan as he was 1/2 Japanese). The evacuation was the key event that eventually led to the creation of tanka communities, the triads and a surge of economic emigration of people from China to SE Asia...and the rise of Singapore!!
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Post by Emmalita on Jul 24, 2009 21:44:35 GMT -5
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Post by Yoomy on Aug 15, 2009 4:40:55 GMT -5
singaporean and english
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Post by fei on Aug 15, 2009 8:39:19 GMT -5
Spore have 4 official races? Which ones are you??
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