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Post by rob on Jan 17, 2009 10:11:00 GMT -5
My family knows a lot of half Europeans and Asians and their offspring's tends to be hotties!  Nothing wrong with being Mexican. Many of them are hot!  Hi folks! I am new obviously. ;D I would never had thought looking for a Eurasian forum since I don't considered myself as one (I got interested on signing up for another reason). So, lemme guess. You're another fetishist looking for hot girls?  Manileña can you give a couple of books/coffee table books about Philippine art? Especially those with Fil-Hispanic theme. I don't really have an idea of what type but I would just like to immerse/learn myself in Philippine art. Gracias de antemano, Ánimo So cool! I can't wait for them Manileña. I am a history fan and those information´s are like once in a lifetime. No one could easily know all of those things! Eres muy interesante forera. Hello, animo. Yes, I have not yet posted an article on Don Jose Maria Zaragoza, but don't worry -- I will be posting one soon! I mentioned several months ago that I would be submitting articles on the great mestizo architects, including Jose Maria Zaragoza, Julio Victor Rocha, Ramon de Irureta-Goyena, Carlos Barretto, etc. I will also post an article on his son Don Ramon Rossello Zaragoza, the architect and building restoration authority in the Philippines! Please stay tuned! And yes, please contribute more articles to this thread!!! Manileña can you give a couple of books/coffee table books about Philippine art? Especially those with Fil-Hispanic theme. I don't really have an idea of what type but I would just like to immerse/learn myself in Philippine art. Gracias de antemano, Ánimo Is anyone concerned by the following? 1) There is some serious mestizo flooding going down on EAN. Kastila was banned for this however Manilena has clearly replaced him/her and stepped it up a notch. 2) Manilena and the only ones propagating this crap are all filipino. They're not even EA. Others thoughts? Mods? |
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Post by volume on Jan 17, 2009 10:25:16 GMT -5
oh yay, e-drama.
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Post by halfbreed on Jan 17, 2009 10:31:54 GMT -5
What the--? Kastila and Manilena are separate people??! Yes, I am irritated by this. Each post is an essay about something I'm sure 99.999% of us don't care about in a language other than english (which I believe is against proboards TOS?). And, yeah, I wouldn't like EAN to become a hangout for people who think they're EA 'cause they've been told they look it once or twice. |
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Post by LaFace on Jan 17, 2009 12:57:52 GMT -5
Perhaps Manilena could trial posting links to his/her articles and pictures, as opposed to posting these long articles in their entirety as well as scores of photos that run for multiple posts in a row.
If this occurred a few times or if most people were reading these posts then I would see no problem with it, however when it comprises the majority of someone's post history and is therefore totaling hundreds of posts altogether, it gets a bit much.
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Post by avax on Jan 17, 2009 13:01:10 GMT -5
^There are 2 issues. Animo's identity, and Manilena's posts. They shouldn't be mixed. Animo should be welcomed as any poster or until his posts prove otherwise. Honestly I haven't found anything offensive about him except that his "hot" comments are shallow and may lead others to think that he does not have a significant understanding/appreciation of eurasians that warrants him being here unless he'd like to learn more. I don't know many eurasians who have that understanding/appreciation of themselves, come to think of it.
Animo has stated in Post pictures thread #5 that he is not a eurasian and identifies as Filipino. He has also stated there that he has european roots four generations ago. He has also identified as being very westernized because of his environment in the phillipines. Furthermore, he has explained that he did NOT come here because he thought he was eurasian. He mentioned coming here for mestizo information.
It would be incredibly stupid if a person were banned because they did not fit a "eurasian stereotype" (and for that sole reason). I always believed ean was a place for all hybrid identities. Sometimes it sickens me when what I read is only about half and half people or see a mentality perpetuated where half/halves are the only legitimate "mixed people" = as if eurasians with smaller fractions are insignificant and not worth mentioning.
Regardless Manilena's extremely long, incessant Mestizo/a posts that are a compilation of expert cut/paste, usually lacking utterly zero personal insight and thought is unnecessary. imho.
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Post by toyomansi on Jan 17, 2009 13:03:32 GMT -5
2) Manilena and the only ones propagating this crap are all filipino. They're not even EA. I thought Manileña was Spanish, and not Filipino...  I have to say that because of her Fil-Hispanic propaganda, I personally feel a bit embarrassed to call myself Filipino... It's like the "mestizo posts" on this forum paints a completely different picture of the Philippines than what I know and experience there, I mean "Filipinos/EAs" with blond hair and blue eyes who speak Spanish?? And I don't know what's up with all the Spanish-languaged posts, today's Filipinos don't even speak Spanish... What feels bitter to me is that the Philippines is an Asian country that had to fight and sacrifice a lot for the independence from Spain (many of the national heroes died as martyrs during the revolution)... And then someone comes along and only highlights all of the successful Spanish people in the Philippines today and claim that they are "Filipino/Asian/EA", and say that we should celebrate the "Día de la Hispanidad"...  |
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Post by LaFace on Jan 17, 2009 13:23:34 GMT -5
Celtriya, my post refers only to Manilena.
I cannot comment on Animo as I haven't read the forum since he became a member, so it would be unfair of me to do so.
I don't think I mixed the two issues, however if it appears that way, it certainly wasn't my intention.
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Post by avax on Jan 17, 2009 13:34:04 GMT -5
It was in response to "don't want them, yuck, yuck" mentality because they do not fit a "mold" or maybe others who weren't aware or disagree that they were different issues, not yours in particular. Sorry for the confusion.
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Post by swinger on Jan 17, 2009 13:37:54 GMT -5
Celtriya, my post refers only to Manilena. I cannot comment on Animo as I haven't read the forum since he became a member, so it would be unfair of me to do so. I don't think I mixed the two issues, however if it appears that way, it certainly wasn't my intention. The issues are separate -- mostly. Did animo come here just to read/support Manilena's mestizo spam posts? He wrote: |
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Post by avax on Jan 17, 2009 14:18:21 GMT -5
But that's his decision if he feels he (Animo) has nothing to relate to and ceases to post. My point was that he shouldn't be ousted out or barred from posting - ie. a discernable action/force that prevents him from posting. This reflects badly on the forum. Or it's rather an attitude I don't wish to be associated with personally.
If he gets called out for the objectifying "hot" remarks, that's just some tact he'll have to learn somewhere along the way. He doesn't strike me as a malicious or extraordinarily stupid fellow. It was actually refreshing to hear another mixed identity other than the stereotypical mixed person when he introduced himself in the Post Pictures thread. I'd like to welcome him.
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Post by animo on Jan 17, 2009 14:32:54 GMT -5
Since my name was brought up then I shall be civil and response properly. It is true that I came here by accident when I was looking for some information related to Filipinos of Spanish ancestry. I am a very active member of another forum Skyscrapercity Philippines: www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=733But I am mostly active in the Heritage section where I have a thread in Spanish about anything related to the Philippines. I am not a mestizo/biracial fanatic. Like what was quoted in one of my replies, I am a heritage and history fan. In the other forum I contributed tons of photos & information's that dates back to the 16th century that no regular Filipinos could ever imagine to know. That is why I was fascinated with Manileña's postings. My field of expertise is on the event after 1521 and prior to Independence of Spanish Philippine history. The evolution of the Philippine State and the Filipino culture. Let me ask the Filipino in here if they even know a lot about what happened in between. I doubt many of them would know and spurt out stereotypes.  If you guys interpreted the "hot" comment then I think you guys need to relax more since I even put an emoticon to that reply. I find it funny that people reacted to it very negatively. Also, if the point of this forum is just to talk about the "hardships" of being Eurasian then I think that is very shallow. What about the purpose of being able to share and have people understand something new to most non-Westernized culture about being multiracial and multicultural? Why limit the potential to improve relations and alienate people who are not the stereotype of being "Eurasians" by the members in this forum. I am actually quite sad with the reactions in here and it kind of reflects my stereotypes of Eurasians (which I don't want to go into this discussions).  |
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Post by animo on Jan 17, 2009 14:41:47 GMT -5
But that's his decision if he feels he (Animo) has nothing to relate to and ceases to post. My point was that he shouldn't be ousted out or barred from posting - ie. a discernable action/force that prevents him from posting. This reflects badly on the forum. Or it's rather an attitude I don't wish to be associated with personally. If he gets called out for the objectifying "hot" remarks, that's just some tact he'll have to learn somewhere along the way. He doesn't strike me as a malicious or extraordinarily stupid fellow. It was actually refreshing to hear another mixed identity other than the stereotypical mixed person when he introduced himself in the Post Pictures thread. I'd like to welcome him. Thank you! The most sensible reply in here. ;D Guys, I only registered here recently and I haven't contributed much. If I ever post somethings in other threads they you guy's will know I am a cool and friendly person. Just to lighten up the responses. |
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Post by swinger on Jan 17, 2009 14:51:57 GMT -5
But that's his decision if he feels he (Animo) has nothing to relate to and ceases to post. My point was that he shouldn't be ousted out or barred from posting - ie. a discernable action/force that prevents him from posting. This reflects badly on the forum. Or it's rather an attitude I don't wish to be associated with personally. If he gets called out for the objectifying "hot" remarks, that's just some tact he'll have to learn somewhere along the way. He doesn't strike me as a malicious or extraordinarily stupid fellow. It was actually refreshing to hear another mixed identity other than the stereotypical mixed person when he introduced himself in the Post Pictures thread. I'd like to welcome him. Thank you! The most sensible reply in here. ;D Guys, I only registered here recently and I haven't contributed much. If I ever post somethings in other threads they you guy's will know I am a cool and friendly person. Just to lighten up the responses. Making this thread focus on you and you alone has derailed the important issue: The "SM in the P" posts are spam/flooding and are irritating people. Are far as R.P. history, you might find it interesting, but it's not topical here and overemphasizing it is bad for the forum. I say 'overemphasizing' because there is always room for off-topic and marginally-topical thread. The idea that EAN is for everyone with any interest and every topic is unsupportable, however. Forums need a defined purpose, and that purpose is realized through self moderation and administrative moderation - when the former fails, the latter must act. |
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Post by avax on Jan 17, 2009 15:04:37 GMT -5
People have directly quoted Animo's posts. I hardly think it was him derailing having to explain himself at length after his value and worth is both attacked and questioned in this thread.
For goodness sake, can't we all eat cookies and get along. Insisting that the forum must have a "purpose" because of Member A's (Manilena) unnecessary posts by first quoting and attacking Member B's (Animo) posts in the first post of the thread is the most insiduous crap I've ever seen.
This is why I said there is confusion with the 2 issues.
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Post by swinger on Jan 17, 2009 15:13:42 GMT -5
People have directly quoted Animo's posts. I hardly think it was him derailing having to explain himself at length after his value and worth is both attacked and questioned in this thread. It's wasn't his post, it was the general left-turn the thread took. The thread is "Anyone irritated..?" - and there's a poll to boot. Insidious crap? Check your own posts sometimes. They are two separate issues, but Animo himself said he only came here because of Manilena's posts and that he otherwise had no interest in coming to any Eurasian forum. So here's how it goes: if a forum is allowed to be spammed/flooded with something completely off-topic, but nonetheless interesting to some other group, you can expect people who share that interest to find and join the forum to discuss it. Additionally, the crazy spammer might make new identities to support himself, or even recruit other people to join the forum for that support. That's the connection between the two issues - Animo is an individual, of course, but he specifically stated that he had no interest to join an EA forum except to provide 'support' for Manilena. Why would she need 'support' if she were just making normal, topical posts to an interested community? |
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If you guys interpreted the "hot" comment then I think you guys need to relax more since I even put an emoticon to that reply. I find it funny that people reacted to it very negatively.