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Post by manillafolder on Apr 8, 2009 12:39:30 GMT -5
really? i find eating and stuffing yourself for the sake of finishing off a plate quite unattractive. especially when it follows with the whole 'omg, i'm so full' moaning. when you're full, you're full. i think laface is a good kid who took it to heart when his mom said "there are children starving in africa!"  Most of us with a parent from the phils know poverty through our parents or from the countless ppl in their villages where they grew up..... Not to get all serious or anything (and I know you're joking) but after the thorough brainwashing as a kid.... and a trip back to see the extended family..... (where you see poor relatives scrape by and the older ones forgo meals for the younger ones) it's pretty disgusting to come back to [Oz/Canada/USA/wherever] and see people waste food. So yeah, if memories of poverty still linger anywhere in the immediate filipino family, you can bet the younger ones ascribe to it .... I'm sure it's not a healthy practice in the developed world, but I kinda like all the weird "pinoy" sensibilities that surround it. e.g., - order only what you can eat. and be sure to finish it - if there are leftovers, take them home - don't order drinks in restaurants - don't order stuff your mom could make at home - use coupons wherever possible - order the menu items that present the best value and not necessarily the ones you want the most - don't order desserts or appetizers - etc etc. .... I'm actually quite happy about the brainwashing because now when i step into a restaurant and order a drink (e.g., rootbeer float, my favourite), i feel like i'm the luckiest guy in the world. Sounds stupid, but it literally brought me to tears on a couple occassions. Honestly, I think it even supersedes that. Despite the fact that my mom's brothers and sisters are thriving back home, they are still very sensitive about waste. My cousin spent a fortune and got married at the Penninsula Hotel. The entire wedding cost nearly $100,000 When I told my US boss that, she was stupefied. She actually asked me if my family ate dogs. It is beyond so many people that there are some very wealthy people back in the PI. But the funny thing, is that when I visit back home, I will get scolded if I leave so much as 10 grains of rice on my plate. That probably sounds a little prideful, but I get a little defensive because I have met a lot of ignorant people. I have hungout with guys in Singapore who laughed it off when I said I was half flip. "There is no way you are Filipino. All Filipinos are maids," etc. Sorry for the monologue. :/ That is just a touchy subject for me... |
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Post by decepticons on Apr 8, 2009 13:42:34 GMT -5
my family has been comfortable, but my grandparents lived through the great depression on the poor side so i was always raised to not waste anything. when i go out to eat places with friends ill never not finish my meal and ill even bring their left overs home. i just hate wasting food even if i dont really want to eat it.
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Post by manillafolder on Apr 8, 2009 15:26:20 GMT -5
my family has been comfortable, but my grandparents lived through the great depression on the poor side so i was always raised to not waste anything. when i go out to eat places with friends ill never not finish my meal and ill even bring their left overs home. i just hate wasting food even if i dont really want to eat it. omg, all my friends waste so much. That said, my mom has friends far more wealthy than us...as in gazillionaires that bring home the bread from a restaurant.  |
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Post by decepticons on Apr 8, 2009 16:01:57 GMT -5
i was at this nice restaurant with a friends family and they had hands down the best home baked bread ive ever had. it was delicious. anyway the mom basically walked out of the restaurant because she refused to be seen with someone who took the bread home.
it was absurd. this is the same person that preaches to her kids all the time about how wasteful they are and blah blah blah and i just hate her so much because shes such a hypocrite. ive almost exploded on this lady before because ive had to talk my friend down from tears for how much her mom yells at her about being wasteful while shes sitting at the airport waiting to fly to new orleans or mexico or utah or anywhere else for the umpteenth time this year. she just drives me bat s*** crazy.
sorry. i rant about things that irritate me.
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Post by ahliang on Apr 8, 2009 21:30:46 GMT -5
i think i ve mentioned something about VERY much disliking food being wasted earlier in this thread (i think it s a few pages back...) and i entirely agree with Rob. not Filipino but having lived in vietnam back when there were lepers in the street, no cars, few motorcycles, and when my family had not gone to a restaurant since the last time my dad had come to vietnam and scraped for food...knowing they had not eaten seafood (lest for nuoc mam...can you believe? in VIETNAM!!!!! so no protein intake at all for over 10 years!) since the war...witnessing all the poverty, seeing kids my age begging me for a cookie when i held a box of chips ahoy in the street (that s when i think i might have started feeling truly disgusted at myself not only for being lucky enough to have cookies but for wasting a single crumb of them...)...has definitely had the same effect on me as what rob was talking about.
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Post by ahliang on Apr 8, 2009 21:43:35 GMT -5
^ps: i remember my aunt cried when i first went to vietnam. my dad had invited my family to a restaurant and had ordered shrimps. (and chao tom). upon seeing something other than rice and nuoc mam, my aunt started crying. at first i didn t get it but that s when i realised my luck. my other aunt s eyes were watery (she wasn t bawling like my other aunt was though) and she had this smile that i ll never forget. for this reason, i get much more affected when shrimps are being wasted.
1)don t waste food. ever.
2)wasting meat is even worse. you killed an animal to satisfice your taste bud yet you dare throw him/her away. (yes, not "it").
3)out of all the animals we might eat, shrimps. never ever waste them. it insults/hurts me so much when i see shrimps being wasted.
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Post by manillafolder on Apr 8, 2009 22:08:42 GMT -5
^ps: i remember my aunt cried when i first went to vietnam. my dad had invited my family to a restaurant and had ordered shrimps. (and chao tom). upon seeing something other than rice and nuoc mam, my aunt started crying. at first i didn t get it but that s when i realised my luck. my other aunt s eyes were watery (she wasn t bawling like my other aunt was though) and she had this smile that i ll never forget. for this reason, i get much more affected when shrimps are being wasted. 1)don t waste food. ever. 2)wasting meat is even worse. you killed an animal to satisfice your taste bud yet you dare throw him/her away. (yes, not "it"). 3)out of all the animals we might eat, shrimps. never ever waste them. it insults/hurts me so much when i see shrimps being wasted. #3 - I agree so much!!! I eat the meat inside the tail of shrimp. so many people take on bite and throw out the rest. |
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Post by ahliang on Apr 8, 2009 22:16:44 GMT -5
^ actually that s a trophic level of annoyance to food waste...wasting food as it is is bad enough, even more so animals, and shrimps even more for the reason/memory i stated above. glad you agree! and welcome on board!!!!! |
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Post by LaFace on Apr 9, 2009 1:06:42 GMT -5
Well I was going to explain why I don't waste food, but the reasons have already been posted above by a number of people (rob, decepticons, ahliang, manillafolder). It's childish, and a signal of being unappreciative in my opinion. I always try to finish the food off. It's not like I'm so full such that I'm struggling to even breathe or sit straight and hence forcing myself through immense pain to prove a point. Not at all. How many times are people really full to this point when finishing a meal? When I finish a meal I am basically satisfied, but I can still fit a little bit more in if it means finishing off small parts of a plate. To me, it's about not wasting the food that you have paid for, that so many others around the world would love to have, but unfortunately do not have the chance to even experience. Like others in this thread, seeing poverty first hand (Philippines) opens your eyes to a deeper level of meaning in this regard. It makes me proud that on the Filipino front, finishing our food is something that seems to be an expected part of our culture. it's pretty disgusting to come back to [Oz/Canada/USA/wherever] and see people waste food. ^Agreed. |
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Post by LaFace on Apr 9, 2009 1:14:53 GMT -5
^Why would you buy something that you wouldn't like?
And get real, just because we don't waste food doesn't mean we eat from trash.
A little more maturity on your last few words, please.
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Post by LaFace on Apr 9, 2009 1:21:48 GMT -5
^If someone gave me something I wouldn't like (assuming this was given to you), I would give it to someone that would, instead of chucking it out immediately.
Also, instead of encouraging people to throw out that 'crap', I would encourage people to either not buy it in the first place, or not accept the food in the first place.
That's just me though.
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Post by LaFace on Apr 9, 2009 1:32:09 GMT -5
^Yes, that is me, and probably a number of others in this thread.
I never said you couldn't throw it out anyway.
This is a public forum.
If you're going to write something to show a point, expect other people's opinions on it, especially if such opinions have a basis to them, regardless of whether you agree or disagree.
That is the point of message boards, 'buddy'.
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Post by manillafolder on Apr 9, 2009 1:41:16 GMT -5
McD's isnt really food lol |
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Post by LaFace on Apr 9, 2009 1:48:10 GMT -5
It's in my trash if you want it. Stray, I wouldn't call this a point, but rather a snide comment with no basis. Everything else you wrote was fair. It's cool if people disagree because I assume we're all decent enough people to still have a discussion. One example being Helles last post, where even though I generally disagree with her, I respect what she wrote because it is completely fair. If you make a comment like that which I have quoted above though, then I believe it's reasonable to call it out for what it is worth. edit: and I wouldn't call your above posts, 'trolling', as I'm sure if we had this discussion in real life the deal made out of it wouldn't be as big as it has been made out to be in the recent posts by us. |
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Post by Groink on Apr 9, 2009 11:42:55 GMT -5
Ok guys, shake hands and let's get past it.
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