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Post by nakanaka on Apr 13, 2009 20:15:42 GMT -5
Last week, my friend was asked out by a asiaphile, to which she politely said no.... although i found it funny in a ridiculous way, it got me thinking about asiaphiles and EAphiles..
I've had very little contact with them, but has anyone here ever been asked out by one of these types?? how did you say that it was a little weird for you that they only started liking you when they found out you were asian or mixed??
Personally, I've never had this experience, but I'm wondering how everyone else handles it...
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Post by milkman's baby on Apr 13, 2009 23:57:11 GMT -5
Asiaphiles are generally just creeps.
EAphiles could also be asiaphiles, but some of them are often people who just buy into the whole multiracial=beautiful, exotic notion. They probably also like Latinos and other mixed race people. Maybe not as creepy, but still just as annoying.
If someone comes on to you because of this, I wouldn't try to make a big scene about it. Just tell them you're not interested and try to ignore them from there on out. They probably won't listen to what you have to say about it anyway, as all they care about is your race.
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Post by jenbrook on Apr 14, 2009 0:52:35 GMT -5
Gah! In canada i was constantly being urged by some local canadian friends to meet their friend of a friend who is really into asians after his trip to thailand five years ago, like we'll get along great for those reasons only. Huuuuduuurrrr!
Sometimes old guys (like rly rly old) in s.e. asia will mistake me for a wannabe trophy wife who will sleep with anything caucasian to live the 'wife of a white man dream'.. And proceed to mack on me, practically smacking his lips and slobbering.. I generally run in the opposite direction when this happens.
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Post by ahliang on Apr 14, 2009 1:48:12 GMT -5
^BAHAHAHAHAHA! has that happened to you as well dear? i get that a lot too here... and i think i turned someone into an asianphile. after dating me he went to vietnam...visited my childhood spots...then he got employed by a vietnamese upon coming home...and went to uni to pursue vietnamese....he speaks it really well now! way better than i ever was able to! and i know his last interest was a vietnamese girl. and then another girl who learned vietnamese...last i talked to him (we re still friends ) i think it fell through though. he s possibly the only white guy i know that watches paris by night with genuine interest. i think he s my dad s friend in the becoming...my dad s friend has an awkward fascination for vietnamese and chinese women...he speaks vietnamese and chinese too and had a poster of jane march (half viet/half brit actress) in his bedroom. everything in his house is asian...chinese traditional wedding bed with the canopy...bamboo blinds, antique-style chinese furniture etc...his son (half viet) is (obviously) EA... nakanaka: well i ve been asked out by one here but i don t think he ever doubted i was asian as the first thing he asked me was what part of asia i was from...his ex was chinese...and anything asian was his type...except for a friend of mine (asian) that very much despised the poor dude. i think it might be that people like that are so aware of asian culture/looks they might be able to tell the difference between EAs/whites/asians while a lot of white people might not...thus why given my looks and knowing i m on a visa he asked where in asia i was from?
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Post by Fiona on Apr 14, 2009 4:10:30 GMT -5
Sometimes old guys (like rly rly old) in s.e. asia will mistake me for a wannabe trophy wife who will sleep with anything caucasian to live the 'wife of a white man dream'.. And proceed to mack on me, practically smacking his lips and slobbering.. I generally run in the opposite direction when this happens. ^That seems to happen to my friend whose look is the sort of typical oriental asian beauty. RANK. Edit: As to how she handles it. She just nods, smiles awkwardly and walks away very quickly. Also I kind of find myself the pit-stop before guys turn into asia-philes. Quite a few of the guys that have been interested in me end up dating only Asian girls after they are done with me. It almost feels like they were thinking "Well not too sure if my friends will approve of me dating an Asian I'll test the waters with this white girl that looks kinda Asian!"
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Post by Subuatai on Apr 14, 2009 4:11:12 GMT -5
Heh Asiaphiles and EAphiles are getting increasingly common here in Australia, and the two go hand in hand. It's rather sickening really to be admired only for your race, it's a weird feeling - it's like deep inside you feel they are being subtly racist yet at the same time they absolutely adore you. Hard to deal with that sometimes, especially when the girl's good-looking.
Luckily I haven't really encountered that many, since the majority of Asiaphiles I met admired East Asian culture, my culture in comparison is considered barbaric and share the same flaws as European cultures. Though some still have that "I wanna be Mongol by injection" mentality which is kinda shocking. Fetishes... meh
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Post by nakanaka on Apr 14, 2009 16:35:11 GMT -5
Gah! In canada i was constantly being urged by some local canadian friends to meet their friend of a friend who is really into asians after his trip to thailand five years ago, like we'll get along great for those reasons only. Huuuuduuurrrr! HEYYY!!! I'm from Canada too!!! ;D although i've never been ask out by a asiaphile or an EAphile, there seem to be a lot of japanophiles around here =__=;;
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Post by nemesisgalofdoom on Apr 14, 2009 17:51:01 GMT -5
There*s a lot of them in Germany - most of them are "f.ucking old sacks" .......... ;D Which means old and fat German guys with Thai wife who are at least 15 years or much more younger.
Most of these Asian women are unfortunately dependent to those guys, they hardly speak German. Those Guys cant get along with western women, they are simply too bossy and emanthipated to them.
Hehe, when I was in a vietnamese Restaurant, an old Guy around 50 came to me and spoke to me and has tried......(we can go on holiday immediately of course free of charge and so...) I smashed him of course and insulted him - because such a reaction is mostly not expected from "an Asian Girl" haha ...... I also told him to get back to his casket ^^
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Post by Kush on Apr 14, 2009 19:00:50 GMT -5
I've never met any Asiaphiles or EAphiles. From what I've heard, Asiaphiles appear to be either people who are genuinely interested in Asian culture and language or creeps who think Asian girls are all easy and desperate. The majority of the EA/Asiaphile thing is directed towards the girls, so I think I'm in the clear. I'm not too keen on the idea of old, creepy people chasing after me anyway. The fact that it sounds as though it's quite common is actually quite worrying. Girls - if they do it to you, give them hell please
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Post by betahat on Apr 14, 2009 19:03:15 GMT -5
"EAphiles could also be asiaphiles, but some of them are often people who just buy into the whole multiracial=beautiful, exotic notion."
Can't there be people who just find Asians more beautiful, without all the other cultural stereotypes of submissiveness, demureness, etc. that we all find so offensive? And couldn't there be people who fetishize "hybridization" - how cool it is to speak multiple languages, travel the world, eat all kinds of food and be at home in several cultures - to the point that it is just as offensive? [After all, there EAs who really just grew up in one culture and besides their physical traits they might as well be white/Asian]
Is the difference here that EA stereotypes tend to be more positive than Asian stereotypes? Even if you think you can separate physical attraction from cultural attraction, is it really possible? I'm not into blonds, and I'd like to think that it's physical as opposed to an offensive stereotype that blondes are bimbos, but can I ever be really sure?
Just askin'
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Post by Subuatai on Apr 15, 2009 3:27:24 GMT -5
From humble observation, it seems male Asiaphiles do tend to be old, and/or inept amongst their people/culture, or just want some exotic boontang. Some of them even believe they have legitimate reasons - as they consider their own women of their race disloyal, unreliable, non-hardworking, etc. Funny really, cause Asian girls have the same problems!
Female asiaphiles however, they are just weird. All of them young, but just really weird. Most of them seem to have watched waaaaaaaay too much Anime, and you know what's even weirder? They prefer the effeminate Asian dudes with girly hair to the masculine ones! Masculine Asian fellas are considered "too white" to them.
While at the same time, EAphile stereotypes don't really seem to go beyond the "Mixed is hot", "Best of both worlds" thing it seems. EAphiles are hence - harder to spot, cause one person may just be making a simple compliment.
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Post by buddence on Apr 15, 2009 4:26:21 GMT -5
2 comments......
1. my dad definitely falls into that old, inept overweight guy with a much younger wife definition you guys are using. so how would i rank on your social totem pole, you magnificent, elite people? i do think that betahat has got some really valid points. but i still don't get the "offensive" business. why should anyone else be offended or even care? people like you just want an excuse to look down on other people i think. 2. never heard of women asianphiles back where i lived in america. ig uess i only knew asian girls who like asian guys for reasons of race and culture but i guess this refers to mixed race couples and all of the "offensive" qualities mentioned above.
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Post by Subuatai on Apr 15, 2009 7:12:31 GMT -5
Majority of asiaphiles are men as such a relationship is very strongly propagated in Western media. Btw I don't think people here are denying that such relationships can end up proving genuine, it happens, but unfortunately there is a high divorce rate attached to it as well - but of course one can argue the divorce rate is universal anyway for any relationship. In this topic I believe we're focusing on the "phile syndromes" on the modern dating scene, not our parent's personal life.
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Post by nemesisgalofdoom on Apr 15, 2009 10:50:18 GMT -5
[...] but i still don't get the "offensive" business. why should anyone else be offended or even care? There is only one single offensive point for me: Yes, I feel very offended if a Guy who is about 20 years older "tries to pick me up" no matter how. I'm just not into old guys ... I dont know where u are living, but yes, people in Germany mostly look down - and in my opinion its not always justified, most of them (the one who look down) have a lower average education, but are arrogant at the same time I personally dont care how others live. But its still matter of fact that Asian have this image in Germany: "Asian woman are great, because they serve the men" ...this is a looking down attitude towards somebody or not ?
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Post by jenbrook on Apr 15, 2009 11:43:21 GMT -5
2 comments...... 1. my dad definitely falls into that old, inept overweight guy with a much younger wife definition you guys are using. so how would i rank on your social totem pole, you magnificent, elite people? i do think that betahat has got some really valid points. but i still don't get the "offensive" business. why should anyone else be offended or even care? people like you just want an excuse to look down on other people i think. 2. never heard of women asianphiles back where i lived in america. ig uess i only knew asian girls who like asian guys for reasons of race and culture but i guess this refers to mixed race couples and all of the "offensive" qualities mentioned above. Same here my parents have a wide age gap too. Sometimes you just know when someone 30 or more years older then you is making advances on you for all the wrong reasons. Firstly, he's older and white, therefore, carries a certain stigma of wealth and status. This geriatric guy thinks he will be irresistable to you because you are an asian looking female dressed nicely and drinking at a bar.. which he will interpret as being on the prowl as he is under the impression that asian women are demure and would only do this if desperate and in search of a sponsor. Rather unfortunatly i've been hit on by these guys numerous times since i was as young as 15 years old.. So trust me, asiaphiles do exist. Living in asia, i see them all the time. Often they can be rude and obnoxious and very, very dirty/exploitative. I cant tell you how many times i've seen grey haired grand-dads groping 18 year old girls in a very disrespectful manner :S. I ouldnt call people who are attracted to asians, asiaphiles per se. I think asiaphiles are guys who are.. (1) neurotically obsessed with asians (2) sexually attracted to asian women because of a certain power it makes them feel that just their nationality alone can attract beautiful young women who are at their every beck and call and wont try and sue them for appalling sexual acts.
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