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Post by fei on Jul 2, 2009 5:15:37 GMT -5
I think i just vomitted in my mouth a little. Hey jenni, why you put life sentence on me before you know me? Then i would like to appeal on this case.. Being an EA does not mean that you are a player and with many girl does not mean that you are playboy. Being player mean cheat on girl feeling to get in her pants. I dont do that stuff, anyway you wrote before that you have hard time in relationship, well i do too cause girls dont want to committed and i cant force them into something that dont want to do.. So i just find someone who willing stay to the end.. What wrong with that? |
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Post by cm on Jul 2, 2009 9:51:14 GMT -5
This poll was created in response to the Are EA guys playboys?. Let's try to settle the issue with some hard numbers. Maybe we'll dispel or reinforce a few stereotypes. If you are curious as to the truth then you should be honest. Your poll response is anonymous as always. The parenthesis indicate which part of the world you were (mostly) in for the last year. @pad You can count the sausages if you like... Yo, its not an issue.. I'm telling you the inside scoop, where i have observed in several asian countries, this phenomenon! Most of the EAs in asia are prone to become playa playas. There are hordes of EAs in asia, just as many or even more then there are in the west but only a handful are on EAN so this poll is futile. Why dont you just trust my word  .. I grew up with these guys and meet new ones all the time (retournees, EAs from other schools). Or how about the opposite. Maybe EA men are not players in Asia, but instead get f***ed over in Western nations by dumb white bitches and whitewashed EA/Asian bitches who only date white men  I think if you are in a cosmopolitan area with Asians in the West, EA men do fine, but I hear awful stories of those living in the Ozarks. |
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Post by cm on Jul 2, 2009 10:42:15 GMT -5
Bitter, party for one, your table is ready.  Seriously though, I am a little sick of EA guys saying they can't find girls. I grew up with a lot of eas. most of them didn't have trouble dating. I think it has to do with confidence and how you conduct yourself. Some of the ea guys I knew that were getting all the girls were not the most attractive of the bunch. And some of the better looking ones never got dates because they were too shy and nervous. Try throwing yourself out there, you only live once. When I lived in an all white/hispanic area, I had trouble. The minute I went to a multi-ethnic university with a 30% Asian population, no trouble at all finding dates.I'm just telling it how it is from my experiences in a suburban white utopia with few Asians, and a multi-cultural college campus. I've experienced both, have you? If you want play as an EA male, you need to live in an area where people have exposure to Asians, or else people won't see any difference between different Asians and EA and lump them as this:  |
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Post by Subuatai on Jul 2, 2009 13:12:40 GMT -5
I'm married =/
So one.
EDIT: Sorry didn't see the 'past year' thing.
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Post by cm on Jul 2, 2009 14:46:58 GMT -5
When I lived in an all white/hispanic area, I had trouble. The minute I went to a multi-ethnic university with a 30% Asian population, no trouble at all finding dates.I'm just telling it how it is from my experiences in a suburban white utopia with few Asians, and a multi-cultural college campus. I've experienced both, have you? If you want play as an EA male, you need to live in an area where people have exposure to Asians, or else people won't see any difference between different Asians and EA and lump them as this: Yes I have experienced both. Not the Ozarks, but I have been to some pretty racist areas, quite frequently actually. My parents own a vacation home near where the Aryan Brotherhood used to keep house in Idaho. Fun trips! The store keepers loved my mom until one of us would come in with her. ;D You get a lot of dirty looks and stares, but there were still good people there too. Why do you need to "play as an ea male"? Just curious. I have never been lumped in as "just asian", but it wouldn't bother me if I had. When ignorant people see minorities that they don't encounter on a daily basis, they tend to judge them based on what they see on TV. You're not an individual but 'ASIAN' to them. It's not just about 'play', but it's about having various options. You have many more compatible personalities when you live in a city or are in a University environment where people form a plethora of background converge. |
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Post by Paddy on Jul 2, 2009 17:42:19 GMT -5
i'm hoping we can get some more data from the EAs in Asia.. who else lives here. If i get some info from my friends can we put in some poll answers on their behalf? My best buddy (yes I have a best buddy! ;D) is EA from HK. He is an international school kid. Very handsome. Sister was Miss HK a while back. Fine pedigree. Gets all the looks from the girls. But like someone said (Pelle?), if you don't have the confidence, if you don't take a chance then you'll get nowhere. My poor buddy, 30 years old, has practically no relationship experience. His previous girls (EA) all cheated on him. He's unbelievably sensitive and introspective, and the girls run a mile when he shows interest. He's the type that gets really intense very quickly. He likes the one-on-one life story. He's definitely a break with the norm considering his background. Unequivocally not a player. Number of sexual partners? 4 I believe, though none in the past 4/5 years. |
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Post by Paddy on Jul 2, 2009 17:44:51 GMT -5
I think we'd get more interesting stats if we counted total sexual partners to date, rather than for the last year.
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Post by milkman's baby on Jul 2, 2009 17:45:32 GMT -5
Lots of people vote, but hardly anyone has the balls to post the number.
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Post by Ragnar on Jul 2, 2009 19:11:58 GMT -5
I think we'd get more interesting stats if we counted total sexual partners to date, rather than for the last year. Oh it would still be 0 for me then  |
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Post by palaver on Jul 3, 2009 0:52:12 GMT -5
I think we'd get more interesting stats if we counted total sexual partners to date, rather than for the last year. Oh it would still be 0 for me then Yes, I didn't want the results to skew towards age. AND asking people to recall their partners over a long period of time cause distortions (enumeration/approximation) in the reporting. Plus, 18 choices for the 6 people responding to the poll would've been too much. |
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Post by LaFace on Jul 3, 2009 3:51:14 GMT -5
but the double standard is ridiculous. In my opinion, females are largely responsible for this double standard. In fact, I would say females carry the majority of the burden for it. Take two people - both are physically attractive, personalities go alright, both have had sex with what would be considered a very large number of people, with the only difference between the two being that one is a male and one is a female. Conspicuous female: females will generally view her as a slut and look down on her, and males will also generally view her as a slut (yet quite a number of males would still have sex with her despite this, but view her as just that - sex). Conspicuous male: males will generally view him as a slut but not in a negative way. More importantly however, a very large number of females will view him as desirable because he's good looking, has an alright personality, is likely to be an alpha male, and has other females lusting after him, and if he shows some care for this female then females are often easily willing to look past his sexual history because of this. Furthermore, a significant proportion of these women will not look at this male as just sex, but will actually want a relationship with him. See the discrepancy? If females want this double standard to cease, then one or both of two things must happen: 1) Females should start viewing conspicuous females in a more positive light, similar to how many guys view male 'sluts'. and/or 2) Females should start viewing the conspicuous male in a more negative light (many of you say you do, but let's be real, how often do you see a female say, "he's not like what other people make him out to be, aww he's really such a sweety! , <3 s2 ^_^"). I then see females complaining about the double standard, but then I think to myself, look at the way you as a gender generally (not individually) view the conscpicuous female and male. "Oh it's not fair that a girl who loves sex with multiple guys is a slut but a guy who loves sex with multiple girls is a stud". Perhaps if more girls viewed him in a negative way, the 'double standard' might change significantly... My above observations are highlighted very well by the celebrity examples of two 'hoes' in terms of their public perception of attractiveness - Paris Hilton and George Clooney. Consider both of these people in your mind, and how each of these people is generally viewed by both males and females. Hilton is generally a 'slut', and Clooney is generally 'one of the sexiest men alive'. It might sound harsh, but in my opinion, females in general bear the most blame for the discrepancy. This isn't necessarily how I personally view such 'conspicuous' people myself (eg. I don't care for girls that others might consider a 'slut', and I couldn't care less if a guy has conquered 26 females over the last year). Instead, these are my observations over many years that I simply cannot ignore because people in the general public that don't like outspokenness might consider my opinion to be 'politically incorrect'. These trends are so rife that they simply cannot be dismissed as mere 'coincidence' in my opinion. |
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Post by milkman's baby on Jul 3, 2009 13:25:17 GMT -5
Everything you said was true, LaFace. I've been tried to publicize such a proposal for years, but with little success. Most people can recognize such a double standard, but they still have those sentiments engrained in them. Even the most "liberal" of women are guilty of it. Although I don't know if I'd say females are any more responsible for it, but they are very much so contributors. Men are generally more concerned about marrying/dating a woman who is a virgin, or at least had few sexual partners in her life. But I almost never hear women demanding virginity in a man. In fact, many women think a sexually experienced man is appealing.
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Post by palaver on Jul 3, 2009 14:14:09 GMT -5
^ I don't see this as a double standard because both sexes are sufficiently different in their biology. They can't be held to the same standards because their sexual biology affects them in different ways. Without explaining much, it makes sense for both sexes to behave in the way you describe. Sex is a social indicator and we respond unconsciously to these indicators. Even the type and composition of a man's sperm varies according to the conspicuousness of their partner. So will a woman's orgasm vary with the social status of her partner.
This is all hard coded into the human brain. Political equality can't erase gender. In fact, cultural and demographic shifts trend more with the standards: polygamy, sex ratio, declining birth rates, childless marriages, and nuclear families. Though I think human sexuality is still slowly evolving in the age of contraception as sex loses more of its reproductive qualities.
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Post by ChickenSoda on Jul 3, 2009 15:02:08 GMT -5
^ I don't see this as a double standard because both sexes are sufficiently different in their biology. They can't be held to the same standards because their sexual biology affects them in different ways. If you see two different sets of standards for separate groups of people, then you see a double standard. You're arguing that there's a scientific basis for the double standard- I agree. |
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Post by palaver on Jul 3, 2009 16:12:29 GMT -5
^ The connotation they implied was that there was a single principled standard which evolved into something unfairly discriminatory. It's often used in a negative context. I don't think they were merely counting in this case. They were complaining. I'm glad to see that we agree on everything else.  |
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.. I grew up with these guys and meet new ones all the time (retournees, EAs from other schools).
I think if you are in a cosmopolitan area with Asians in the West, EA men do fine, but I hear awful stories of those living in the Ozarks.
Seriously though, I am a little sick of EA guys saying they can't find girls. I grew up with a lot of eas. most of them didn't have trouble dating. I think it has to do with confidence and how you conduct yourself. Some of the ea guys I knew that were getting all the girls were not the most attractive of the bunch. And some of the better looking ones never got dates because they were too shy and nervous. Try throwing yourself out there, you only live once. 
