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Post by milkman's baby on Jul 15, 2009 17:26:16 GMT -5
After seeing the responses in the Closeness of Relatives thread on how many EAN users have relatives that didn't accept the racial differences, I'm curious about how your parents feel about other races, non-Asians and non-whites. Would your parents and immediate family accept you dating/marrying a black, Hispanic, Amerindian, or anyone that doesn't fall into any of the categories they are in? Also, do you think your parents want you to marry either a full white or full Asian? May sound odd, but I know some who are like that. I guess this could go out of the realm of dating as well - are your parents racist in general?
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Post by Jonas on Jul 15, 2009 18:46:01 GMT -5
My dad is very open about these kind of things but my mom... I don't really know tbh. I'm pretty sure she would prefer if I would get a white or an asian girl but I have no idea how she would react if I went out with a black or hispanic girl, I'd like to think she wouldn't have a problem with it atleast.
She can be a little racist sometimes, but she always says it in a somewhat jokingly way so I never know if she's just kidding around or not...
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Post by palaver on Jul 15, 2009 20:53:51 GMT -5
My parents don't care about race, but this was the race-based marriage advice I get from my Chinese grandparents: White women are gold diggers. No good. Hispanic women are unfaithful. No good. Black women are lazy. No good. Marry an Asian woman or an Indian woman. They will take care of your family.
Now this didn't seem right to me, so I asked my Korean preacher and he said, "Stay away from American women. They are descended from the lineage of prostitutes. Your daughters will inherit their sin." I left the Church of Unification (Moonies) shortly after.
Then one night I got a call from my uncle. I don't know who tipped him off, but he starts lecturing me about marriage. He's been messing around, off and on, with a few women for years. Not once, he bragged, has he caved into the idea of marrying any of them. And you know what he told me? He still plans on getting married. He's going to leave the country, find a nice country girl from a good family, and marry her--once his IT company is up and running. People joke about where he is going to find a girl like that.
The advice is always to marry the perfect woman or the perfect guy. But where can you find perfect? I can't even find the perfect car. A car like that would have Japanese fuel economy, German engineering, Italian sex appeal, a Swedish crash test rating, a Korean price tag, and be made in America. Translate that into a woman. East Asian subservience with a black booty, American bust, Latin hips, European education, Swedish fingers and--err... a Russian price tag. We're not far enough into the future to making demands like that. Technology has to catch up. And who knows, I might be into women from outer space and not know it.
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Post by Yingy on Jul 15, 2009 21:22:13 GMT -5
My mom is very much racist and prejudiced and I don't think she cares who knows it. Even though my father is German and Prussian she rather had me marry a Asian man even though none of them wanted me She has always limited my friends to being Asian or Asian mixed. A few that were white she didn't care much for and were not allowed in our house. She was even racist against other Asians, lol Overall she''s just a nut and a hater. One time after much begging she allowed my Hispanic best friend over and after she accused my friend of stealing her diamond ring. She then later found it on the floor next to her dresser sigh.... When I dated half black and half Egyptian guy I had to really keep it on the down low or she would pretend to kill herself, lol I ended up marrying a white, native American francophone and she tried to sabotage my wedding, dramaz. My dad however claims he is not racist but I bet if I married a black dude he would s*** a brick in silent horror. He didn't care what race a guy was when I was dating, just as long as they were well educated, came from a good family and treated me well but I think marriage would change all that for him. I have a half sister who is white and she is moving to Hawaii and if she ends up marrying a islander I really wonder what his reaction will be. She had dated a Vietnamese guy for a few years and my dad was o.k with it and my step sister, she dated a Filipino guy for awhile as well. Wait a sec! Why did my white sisters get all the Asian guys and I didn't?
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Post by milkman's baby on Jul 15, 2009 22:01:34 GMT -5
] I ended up marrying a white, native American francophone and she tried to sabotage my wedding, dramaz. I would like to hear this story. Oh yeah and thanks for the bit of advice, Palaver. But you forgot the fat Polynesian woman. Clearly there is a benefit there.
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Post by mingzayni88 on Jul 31, 2009 14:57:24 GMT -5
My family honestly doesn't care. My sibs and other family members are married to basically every race in existance so I don't think they'll be even a bit shocked by who I bring home. That's only race though....Religion is a different story...
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Post by Kush on Aug 2, 2009 20:50:19 GMT -5
My parents I don't think are racist although they've both made some sweeping statements, mainly about black people which let's say would cause a fair bit of outrage if said on TV.
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Post by keeper of the funk on Sept 1, 2009 17:44:12 GMT -5
gf is of jamaican heritage. my mum doesn't have a problem with it.
once, a long time ago, she did express a slight concern when she noticed the type of girls i seemed to be attracted too, we had a polite conversation, i explained where i was coming from and she just said something about times changing.
have heard the occasional ignorant slur from chinese people i kno thru my mum. I doubt shed have a problem with ne1 i chose to date on the basis of race, only if she feels that individual is a negative influence.
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Post by finnishguy on Oct 7, 2009 17:03:31 GMT -5
What is Hispanic? And what an earth it has to do with race? Because if I understand it correctly Hispanics are people who speak Spanish. I believe most "Hispanics" are mestizo, but of course not all.
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Post by milkman's baby on Oct 7, 2009 19:09:34 GMT -5
What is Hispanic? And what an earth it has to do with race? Because if I understand it correctly Hispanics are people who speak Spanish. I believe most "Hispanics" are mestizo, but of course not all. Hispanic, as most Americans know it, is used to describe folks whose origins hail from Central and Latin America. Any of those Spanish and sometimes Portuguese-speaking countries. Could be mestizo, but could just white Spaniard, Amerindian, African, etc. Some don't even know. They are usually grouped into their separate category on government forms, but sometimes they have the option of being called a "White Hispanic." Most often you will see forms list them as "Hispanic, Non-White." You could call them "mestizo" but that simply means anyone whose mixed. I'm mestiza, but I am not Spanish or Amerindian. Latino is too broad a term, in my opinion. Technically, the French and Italians are Latino too.
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Post by Ganbare! on Oct 7, 2009 20:38:02 GMT -5
Americans and their obsession with racial data in census... And then you wonder why the Union is pretty much a de facto Apartheid state.
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Post by betahat on Oct 7, 2009 21:59:46 GMT -5
"Americans and their obsession with racial data in census... And then you wonder why the Union is pretty much a de facto Apartheid state. " I'm sorry, I forgot how France was a beacon of light for race relations They don't really need a hispanic section - they could just ask whether you speak spanish or not at home and your country of origin. That's almost good enough, though I suppose in a few generations you might find more people who don't speak spanish but are descended from "hispanics." But then those people are basically Americans, no? A black American of cuban or haitian descent who doesn't speak spanish is an African American, not a hispanic.
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Post by milkman's baby on Oct 8, 2009 7:14:10 GMT -5
If most Hispanic knew their origins of lineage they would be able to distinguish themselves as half Amerindian half white or whatever. But I think it's just because so many don't and there has been generations of mixing for so long that they almost seem to have created their own race.
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Post by jefe on Oct 9, 2009 2:17:44 GMT -5
Yes, many Hispanics are in a quandary if you want to ascertain their lineage. For example, this study cited here found that among Puerto Ricans - 98% showed evidence of European ancestry - 87% showed evidence of African ancestry - 84% showed evidence of Native American ancestry en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Puerto_RicoBut people in the same family could vary enormously -- it is logical to classify siblings into different racial groups when they share the same ancestors? I bet you could try the same test with Mexicans and although the ratio is different, the results would not be that much different. In these kinds of societies, wealthier or more educated individuals may tend to prefer lighter-skinned spouses with more European features, causing the relative ratio of European / non-European ancestry to be correlated with wealth or education even though both share the same set of ancestors. I saw a documentary about how they were trying to implement some affirmative action policites based on color, but it was difficult to enforce due the difficulty of classifying people by race. In some cases, identical twins were classified into different races. Now that the anti-miscegenation taboos have broken down considerably in the USA, will the same thing happen throughout the society there? Ha-ha, maybe the professional classes will look like Jewish-Chinese mixture in 3-4 more generations.
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Post by toyomansi on Oct 9, 2009 3:40:55 GMT -5
Would your parents and immediate family accept you dating/marrying a black, Hispanic, Amerindian, or anyone that doesn't fall into any of the categories they are in? Also, do you think your parents want you to marry either a full white or full Asian? lol, my parents told me clearly that I could date/marry anyone I wanted, as long as they were rather not black or muslim... ("not that we have anything against them, but it would be difficult for you to get acceptance in society... and if married to a muslim, the man and his family would dominate you" ;D) when it comes to Asian guys, I was told that as long as he's taller than me it's a ok
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