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Post by milkman's baby on Jan 3, 2010 13:09:57 GMT -5
edit: also, because they stick the men in cubicles and put the women out front - maybe that's why the OP sees more women than men? That's kinda what I was trying to get at earlier. Also, people pay more attention to female's looks whereas they pay more attention to a man's voice and credits (his job, his education, etc). |
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Post by admin on Jan 3, 2010 14:07:24 GMT -5
Also, people pay more attention to female's looks whereas they pay more attention to a man's voice and credits (his job, his education, etc). An unfortunate reality. The (much less seen) counter to that, though, is the raging corporate bitch, who moves ahead because people fear her. |
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Post by milkman's baby on Jan 3, 2010 15:24:35 GMT -5
Also, people pay more attention to female's looks whereas they pay more attention to a man's voice and credits (his job, his education, etc). An unfortunate reality. The (much less seen) counter to that, though, is the raging corporate bitch, who moves ahead because people fear her. People don't fear her as much as they just dislike her (males and females). More than likely she moved to the top with help from her corporate daddy or husband. That's the reality of it. Any other woman faces the risk being too pretty and being accused of slutting her way to the top, or being ugly and labeled off as another hairy butch feminist that no one likes. She has to be careful to keep a balance between the two. The latest trend for female politicians is to take the maternal route and emphasize their role as a mother (think Nancy Pelosi and the countless references to her 5 children, 7 grandchildren...over, over, and over again). It's less threatening to the crowds. But it's gonna get old soon, and females in politics are gonna have to find a different ploy. Anyway, I still rest my case that a lot of facial hair transforms people's perceptions of the man in many ways. Unless he is very noticeably a non-white monoracial (black or Asian guy), it's just hard to tell what ethnic or racial background he is and bearded men just tend to get lumped into their own category of bearded men. |
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Post by Phil on Jan 3, 2010 16:11:21 GMT -5
When I was in Thailand last I encountered a balanced ratio of male and female EAs. But mind you I was hanging out with entertainment people.
There was a time on this site when we had a good balance but then the chaos began. Females left in droves! This was the time when Scott was just a youngin' ranting about KFC and telling all the GTFO, the Octaroon was posting rampently and PM'n all the girls to meet up(apparently), Tyson had sorta left leaving females with no fun, funny, boozing, exciting nice guy (Rob was busy opposing the Octaroon), UB was hating on people, and as someone at a meet up once explained the exodus of girls from EAN, "the girls realized they couldn't really get with YF"....
I miss those days. *
*Sorry if I got any of this wrong but this is how I remember it.
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Post by naix on Jan 3, 2010 23:09:08 GMT -5
I think that either - EA Males suffer high rates of infanticide or - EA males try to conceal their EA identity more, at least socially. It does not behoove an EA male to be overly EA in the work place and business, unless he is a model or VJ. *Finally, I find it cute to call the gender imbalance a "genre" imbalance. It's cool to be part of the male "genre". I agree with Jefe, EA guys prefer to hide the EA identity for more reason than this. The full blood Asian dont want to work with some half bread or doing business with and people think that EA is only good at the entertainment industry. They never think us of doing much for the community.. This seems rather harsh. Maybe its just my own experience in my already divided (racially) country, but I don't think there would be such blatant discrimination. I mean, this IS the 21st century. Maybe it depends on which country you are in. A multi cultural country may be easier than say a plain one though. |
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Post by jefe on Jan 6, 2010 3:24:00 GMT -5
Maybe we can rephrase the comment to make it sound less harsh:
1. Females¡¦ image is often largely based on their looks.
Males¡¦ image also may include factors based on their looks, but the willingness for females and other males to work / cooperate a male is less related to their looks, but also on his style, intelligence, track record, integrity, other skills. Only if the males¡¦ occupation is more related to their looks (eg, model, VJ, etc.) would more emphasis be placed on their looks.
Females, on the other hand, must recognize that their image is largely influenced by their looks. And, an exotic look (or even the suggestion of something exotic reflected in their EA background) can make their image more appealing, not only in modeling but in other areas of business and social intercourse.
2. Gender imbalance in factors relating to success in relationships
For a male to be successful at what he does, people have to be comfortable working with him, or trusting his motivations (ie, what makes him *tick*, not necessarily the same as trusting HIM). This indirectly forces the male to downplay his EA ness to a certain extent. He must not be too *oriental* for the white guy and not too *foreign* to the Asians, or they will never be able to ascertain or trust his motivations. He may downplay his EA ness subconsciously, without even realizing that that is what he is doing. And I think this would apply whether the location is very multi-racial or entirely monoracial.
So maybe "downplay" is a better word than "conceal".
Obama must always downplay his mixed ethnic / racial heritage in order to appeal to both whites and blacks (and Asians and Latinos), except for the rare instance when he needs to play that card (as he had to do to disassociate himself with Reverend Wright).
However, people ARE attracted to working with females if they are attractive looking, and an EA exoticism could help with that. They have less reason or incentive to downplay it. The only exception would be circumstances where they must appeal to people for reasons not related to their looks. For example, a female EA president or Supreme Court Justice would have to downplay her EA ness as well.
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Post by penguinopolipitese on Jan 6, 2010 5:14:12 GMT -5
I say we start a poll. that'll resolve the question. for my 2 cents I think it's probably pretty even. statistically it's to be expected. maybe because guys are more low key they blend into the crowd more.
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Post by palavore on Jan 6, 2010 14:45:36 GMT -5
^You wont' find me in a crowd. I get this feeling I'm stampeding over a cliff. It's like I'm being buried in a mass grave where the bodies are all standing up.
Anywho, I know more EA girls than guys. And this is not from people watching and approaching them. Truth is... I probably assumed they were all Asian until they talked about their families. That said, I've probably met EA guys that I never figured to be EA. Men aren't as liable to talk about their families as women. So without a social broadcast, I probably missed the EA guys.
I'd say there is more of a gender imbalance in self identification (as EA) than there is in being EA. These guys aren't wearing top hats and long trench coats. Our EA radar may not be as sensitive as we think it is.
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Post by milkman's baby on Jan 6, 2010 15:08:03 GMT -5
^I've also found that EA females are more likely to embrace it. This could be part of the ploy to add any exoticism to themselves as a method of self-marketing as Jefe noted. I've often found that Eurasian males, unless they are the more Asian-looking type, will gravitate more toward their Caucasian side and associate mainly with Caucasians. The ones I've known wanted little to do with their Asian side (or other Eurasians), probably out of fear of being labeled off as another Asian nerd. Sad, but I understand why they think that way.
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Post by Ganbare! on Jan 6, 2010 18:20:34 GMT -5
Like the biggest nerds are not White.. It's funny how on this very forum people tend to perpetuate the asexual work-freak Asian nerd stereotype, the couple I know are quite normal and I believe they are the majority.
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Post by milkman's baby on Jan 6, 2010 19:32:00 GMT -5
Like the biggest nerds are not White.. It's funny how on this very forum people tend to perpetuate the asexual work-freak Asian nerd stereotype, the couple I know are quite normal and I believe they are the majority. I wasn't perpetuating it rather than pointing out that it IS a stereotype. Asians face the problem of being labeled off as such even if they aren't one. So I was pointing out that EA guys (and gals, for that matter) I know will often go out of their way to disassociate themselves with any Asians so as to stay clear of the stereotype. |
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Post by nealtse on May 15, 2010 20:54:36 GMT -5
I know about an even split, but Hong Kong is a pretty International magnet.
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