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Post by betahat on Jan 21, 2010 16:08:58 GMT -5
Take a break from all the love that is this forum and let's take a dump on the worst Eurasians from the last year.
I nominate Jon Gosselin for
(a)maybe cheating on his wife - they claim the relationship started after they were separated
(b)dating numerous other women in a very public way while they were still in the process of separating
and (c)cheating on his girlfriend with another girl (leading her to apparently break into his appartment).
I try not to be too puritanical but the guy is clearly a sleazebag.
An honorable mention to Tiger Woods who is 5/8 Eurasian after all, and who is also fond of cheating on the girlfriend who he is cheating on his wife with.
Any other candidates, or are we just a wonderful morally upstanding lot? I wracked my brains a bit that that's all I could come up with.
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Post by Ganbare! on Jan 21, 2010 18:35:57 GMT -5
I take it as you never cheated.
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Post by betahat on Jan 22, 2010 4:33:50 GMT -5
Yeah. I might have made out with a random girl in a bar once when I was 16 and had a girlfriend, but I was young, horny and stupid and would never contemplate something like that now. Those guys are grown men with children and wives.
It might be just a coincidence that the two people I nominated are mainly "bad" for being adulterers, because they are celebrities and most celebrities get in the news for infidelity. It's not that I consider infidelity to be the worst thing a person can do.
I'm sure there's a Eurasian psychopathic killer, con artist, adjustable rate mortgage broker, or something... and the point of this thread is to find them. Good luck!
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Post by rob on Jan 22, 2010 11:09:28 GMT -5
Not exactly 2009, but if you want heinous eurasian acts, then look no further than Gianni Versace's murderer and serial killer 1, Andrew Cunanan  half filipinos represent!!!  1. don't like either word in his case. i think if police did more investigative research, they'd find out he was sexually abused as a child and that each of these were crimes of passion and retribution for wrongs done unto him |
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Post by xandra on Jan 22, 2010 11:54:29 GMT -5
Take a break from all the love that is this forum and let's take a dump on the worst Eurasians from the last year. I nominate Jon Gosselin for (a)maybe cheating on his wife - they claim the relationship started after they were separated (b)dating numerous other women in a very public way while they were still in the process of separating and (c)cheating on his girlfriend with another girl (leading her to apparently break into his appartment). and d) generally being a total douchebag |
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Post by betahat on Jan 22, 2010 12:00:03 GMT -5
Yeah, Jon Gosselin qualifies automatically for d-bag status just for wearing Ed Hardy clothes, never mind the way he acts.
Rob - nice find, we might as well open it up to ALL TIME since there aren't so many.
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Post by Ganbare! on Jan 22, 2010 14:25:31 GMT -5
What caused your outrage? Gosselin's unfaithfulness? Its publicity?
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Post by betahat on Jan 23, 2010 18:07:55 GMT -5
If he wanted to cheat on his wife and various girlfriends, that's one thing. But doing it when he has 8 kids and is a major fixture of the tabloids is a big deal (actually, he cheated on one girlfriend with a reporter for the tabloids). Cheating is bad in general, but when you're a celebrity it's extra bad, because it involves a very public humiliation. Yeah, that's one of the downsides of fame - you're held to a higher standard, and while you might not have to be a role model, if you have 8 kids and you run around like a college frat boy it doesn't look good.
He also tried to withdraw all of the money from their joint bank account during the divorce proceedings and was forced to return it. That's a pretty bad thing to do in the middle of a divorce, no, especially when your wife has custody of the 8 kids?
I don't think his wife is exactly a saint herself, but she's not Eurasian.
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Post by palavore on Jan 23, 2010 18:14:57 GMT -5
Are we accepting non celebrity nominations?
I'm friends with a EA who did the same thing--no kids though. I must say, however, that I've never seen him happier with his new wife. Does that make it worse?
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Post by milkman's baby on Jan 23, 2010 19:45:32 GMT -5
So I'm guessing you all advocate monogamy? Why should a human be bound to only one other human?
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Post by Ganbare! on Jan 23, 2010 20:13:19 GMT -5
Actually, I think marriage is an unnatural social institution that frustates sexually most individuals!
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Post by betahat on Jan 25, 2010 17:15:18 GMT -5
I support consensual polygamous relationships, through marriage or not. And of course there is nothing wrong with ending a marriage or a long-term relationship because you no longer love the person or have fallen in love with someone else. The important this is honesty, openness and mutual consent. Even though most marriage contracts implicitly include "forever" in today's society there is obviously an understanding that a marriage can be ended by either party.
Pretending to be exclusive, either through marriage or a committed relationship, and then cheating is a poor reflection on a person's character. That also includes emotional cheating as well. It's breaking a promise, plain and simple, and a big one at that. Now there may be cases where society unfairly imposes an implicit commitment to monogamy which the two parties do not make it explicit. For example, you are dating someone but have made no explicit promise of monogamy, but the other party thinks there is one because you have been dating for a while. That is an unfortunate breakdown in communication and not an immoral act.
As for Palavore's point, I think we should accept nominations of non-celebrities. I'm not sure what exactly your friend did - he cheated on his wife, or tried to take their assets before the divorce, or cheated on a girlfriend, or made a public spectacle out of it? The fact that he is happier now does not make it worse, unless that somehow makes his ex-wife even more miserable (I don't know how you weigh the relative happiness of all of the involved parties). But cheating with the love of your life (the cheating a la Mark Sanford) and the cheating with an expensive escort (the cheating a la Elliot Spitzer) are usually morally equivalent in my view - if one of them causes far more pain to the wife it might be worse, but I guess my view on this is a bit more "rule-based" and less utilitarian.
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Post by palavore on Jan 25, 2010 21:15:15 GMT -5
As for Palavore's point, I think we should accept nominations of non-celebrities. I'm not sure what exactly your friend did - he cheated on his wife, or tried to take their assets before the divorce, or cheated on a girlfriend, or made a public spectacle out of it? While he was cheating on his wife he started to beat her up emotionally by making her feel inadequate--this was the consensus view. Most examples of male infidelity involve men trying to keep both their wives and their mistresses. With my friend, he was wanted to keep one and get rid of the other, so his inclinations were serially monogamous rather than a man trying to stock his harem. Though, he still wanted to keep his wife in the dark about his affair. His wife was a shy, delicate, and pretty thing. His girlfriend (and new wife) was a smart and sexy woman with a smooth velvety voice that could sing a mighty blues song. Rrrrrr. His wife was better looking in my opinion and a better person with which to form a stable long term relationship. But there was something about that other girl (I was friends with her before they met) that made you want to jump all over her at the end of the conversation. The mood at house changed a great deal. With his ex-wife they were all lovey-dovey, let's-paint-the-wall-this-color. With his new wife, they're always joking, laughing and having fun, like a rock 'n' roll band going on tour. It can be a crime to be this happy? Maybe he filed his paper work in the wrong order by not filing for divorce before becoming emotional engaged to a new woman, but that only concerns the lawyers--not the people involved. I had intended to prop him up as one of the worst EAs of 2009, but now I kind of sympathize. Lol. I won't do it that way though. (So says myself now) There are, however, some affairs that still leave rational observers stupefied: Prince Charles and Camilla Parker |
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Post by penguinopolipitese on Jan 26, 2010 0:34:56 GMT -5
with jon gosselin I choose in invoke the ancient mystic order of brosb4hoes. She acted like a real bitch from the first on show interview I saw and he always seemed to take it in stride. But a man can only take so much. And as for f***ing 20 year olds... well if you can, you may as well. At least he's not 1000 and doing it like larry king.
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Post by palavore on Jan 28, 2010 2:10:30 GMT -5
It is better for sexual selection to occur at a later age. We should want our children to keep their looks a little while longer.
Though, this would not be fair to wisdom, the sole keeper of good aging.
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