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Post by Ganbare! on Mar 27, 2010 3:29:00 GMT -5
When did you come to terms with being Eurasian if you have? I ask because I was told by a friend that Mariah Carey is apparently reknown for still struggling with her racial identity even at her relatively advanced age to say the least.
I honestly believe I'm past it, I still have personal issues not related to race to fix but as far as being EA is concerned I'm nearing this long-sought interior peace.
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Post by jefe on Mar 30, 2010 21:28:09 GMT -5
I don't think the struggling ends. Even when you think you are past it, something else from left field comes along to surprise you. However, if you learned your lessons the first time, you learn how to handle and manage it better each time it occurs.
When does it officially end? When you have assimilated into some group (and thereby ignore your Eurasian background), or in some places, into local multi-racial groups (which identifies itself as a multi-racial group).
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Post by Ganbare! on Mar 30, 2010 22:17:09 GMT -5
Maybe you're right but I think the older, the less self-conscious. Unless EAs establish a nation-state if this notion makes any sense, we'll always be a minority subjected to a different culture no matter the location, group etc.
Our only two options are like you said voluntarily letting our self-consciousness go by assimilating OR by putting things into relative perspective, it might sound simplistic but in the end we're all just human beings, we therefore shouldn't view other cultures as different nor harmful to our identity, either that or we keep struggling.
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Post by One Eye on Mar 30, 2010 23:23:50 GMT -5
I wouldn't call it a huge struggle for me. I've had some racial confusion that I've mostly moved past...but I never really felt uncomfortable with who I am. My image of myself has shifted over the years, but I never went through what I'd call a "crisis" about race.
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Post by jtburge on Apr 2, 2010 11:07:20 GMT -5
Usually for me its the fact that people think im italian or portuguese, I am a proud eurasian, there are many benefits from being Eurasian!!! One negative is that sometimes i hear a racial slur bc people do not pick up that I am partly asian
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Post by catgirl on Apr 11, 2010 17:17:38 GMT -5
I think mine is becoming less and less visible at least. But Im still learning.... Dont know when it will end, maybe when we re dead and are not matierialistic anymore? As long as we are in the physical world/on this earth/this society, it will always be more or less IN YOUR FACE! Its the group thinking which is doing it. You should be pretty damn strong to go through all that "fire" without doubting your identity at all I think... But one positive thing is that being EA has taught me alot, and I doubt that I would have gained this knowledge about people and myself if I were 100% white. I feel sometimes that I have no national identity anymore, or maybe about to lose it somehow. And I think its good for my mind and soul. I will become less judgemental in general, and its a goal of mine too
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Post by jefe on Apr 14, 2010 12:36:45 GMT -5
But one positive thing is that being EA has taught me alot, and I doubt that I would have gained this knowledge about people and myself if I were 100% white. Just curious, . . . , do you always tend to compare yourself with white people, rather than you Asians or other Eurasians? And how is what you have gained different from Latinos or other multi-racial people? Just curiosity -- -- I almost never compare myself like this, and I also found that 100% Whites or 100% Asians also seem to learn or experience things that I cannot begin to fathom.
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Post by Ganbare! on May 5, 2010 15:14:52 GMT -5
I don't think the struggling ends. Even when you think you are past it, something else from left field comes along to surprise you. However, if you learned your lessons the first time, you learn how to handle and manage it better each time it occurs. When does it officially end? When you have assimilated into some group (and thereby ignore your Eurasian background), or in some places, into local multi-racial groups (which identifies itself as a multi-racial group). Actually I wasn't referring to interaction with people whether I change, assimilate or not, I'll always run into ignorant/agressive people. What I meant is that I know who I am, that others are like me therefore I can be confident with myself, sometimes I wish I was either race to fit in more easily but I'm not confused nor want to disappear from the surface of the Earth anymore, I can be proud like any other individual.
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Post by catgirl on May 12, 2010 18:14:07 GMT -5
But one positive thing is that being EA has taught me alot, and I doubt that I would have gained this knowledge about people and myself if I were 100% white. Just curious, . . . , do you always tend to compare yourself with white people, rather than you Asians or other Eurasians? And how is what you have gained different from Latinos or other multi-racial people? Just curiosity -- -- I almost never compare myself like this, and I also found that 100% Whites or 100% Asians also seem to learn or experience things that I cannot begin to fathom. Haha, good question! ;D Nearly all my friends and relatives (that I have contact with) are white. I know a few asians and eurasians, and my EA brothers and asian dad are the only non-all white family I know, and they are guys so its not always easy to compare with:P I think I might maybe have some similar experience to latinos, or I assume I do since most people think thats what I am. Asians might experience things similar to me, but still different because they are fully asian and Im only half by looks and more perhaps. But I do have an asian friend who acts more white than I do ;D
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Post by catgirl on May 12, 2010 18:17:45 GMT -5
But one positive thing is that being EA has taught me alot, and I doubt that I would have gained this knowledge about people and myself if I were 100% white. Just curious, . . . , do you always tend to compare yourself with white people, rather than you Asians or other Eurasians? And how is what you have gained different from Latinos or other multi-racial people? Just curiosity -- -- I almost never compare myself like this, and I also found that 100% Whites or 100% Asians also seem to learn or experience things that I cannot begin to fathom. Sorry, I think I didnt make myself sound so clear. I basically meant that people that are not fully white or "coloured" may see the world in a broader spectrum than the fully white ones. That is if you live in a white community. But I guess the same goes for people living in all asian communities being white or eurasian for example. Its the same depending on where you live, and whether you are the majority or minority.
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Post by jefe on May 18, 2010 14:45:49 GMT -5
^ I guess my other point was Monoracials also seem to be able to see and appreciate viewpoints that I cannot relate to very easily. Whereas some of my perspectives may be broader than theirs, there are some areas where my perspective might be very narrow compared to theirs.
For example, I have never been able to experience having relatives that identify with me on a racial or ethnic basis. I do wonder what that is like and try to see if I can relate to what the monoracials experience.
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Post by penguinopolipitese on May 20, 2010 3:13:18 GMT -5
by the second meetup
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Post by jefe on May 25, 2010 6:13:39 GMT -5
^ At least EAN was salvation for someone!
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