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Post by Ganbare! on May 5, 2010 17:21:51 GMT -5
Although I'm all for peace and dialogue, in real life I'm a fairly violent person, it's not that I have a short temper, if I had considering the messes I got into over the years, I would have been jailed already but I grew up in pretty bad neighborhoods so I quickly learned to defend myself, retrospectively I suspect that being EA caused me to be picked on more than I deserved by intolerant thugs.
I never relied on cops to solve anything, they do nothing to fix your problems so I either avoided them or settled things old school by exchanging punches. I hear everyday that people are desensitized to violence because it's everywhere but I've witnessed people p**** out too frequently whenever fighting was involved, I'm nothing spectacular physically but whenever the situation calls it I gladly resort to violence. It's gonna sound bad but beating up an asshole frees me from my own frustrations, it feels like I can finally get back to the things and people I have hated my whole life!
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Post by betahat on May 5, 2010 18:13:03 GMT -5
I'm a pacifist in theory and in practice. Walk away and avoid confrontation at all costs, though when I was younger I had less self-control and I was known to beat up brother and physically attack school yard thugs who made fun of me (we're talking up to Grade 8 here).
On the flipside I really enjoy violence in video games, movies, and television.
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Post by Ganbare! on May 5, 2010 20:37:07 GMT -5
I am not promoting violence at all but let's face it unless you live in an ivory tower, you're bound to be cornered into confrontation. I never understood why but I'm a problem-magnet whenever I go out people openly provoke me quite regularly, maybe I dress too street, maybe I go out in the wrong places or hang out with the wrong people I don't know. My girlfriend was groped TWICE while clubbing, the first time I walked away thinking maybe she was mistaken but when it happened a second time our honor was at stake, filing a police report is useless, in these cases the only way to teach those individuals some manners is violence, so after making sure he was alone, I did not want to be swarmed by 10 guys like it has happened to me a few years ago that got my nose broken, even if I got surgery, I still have a slight bump to this day... I went to the guy, asked him to apologize, he refused so I gave his nose a headbutt, end of the story, next time he'll think twice before humiliating a girl. My gf left that night but the next morning she called to tell me that despite abhoring violence some assholes need a lesson. I agree, nothing like violent entertainment to blow off some steam in a safe environment.
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Post by volume on May 5, 2010 20:38:57 GMT -5
I smash cnuts for a living.
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Post by betahat on May 6, 2010 0:04:32 GMT -5
^unless you live in an ivory tower, you're bound to be cornered into confrontation.
That's condescending BS. And I think it might provide a clue as to why you are a problem magnet, though obviously what happened to your girlfriend has nothing to do with your attitude (though your reaction to it clearly did).
Self-defense is one thing, but defending someone's honor is really not a good reason to break someone's nose. Think of it this way - if it's not something you would have done to Chuck Lidell or some massive dude who would crush your ass, but you would do it to a smaller guy you think you can take, it isn't bravery or honor, it's bullying.
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Post by Ganbare! on May 6, 2010 8:14:35 GMT -5
^I have been forced to defend myself a couple of times not from some drunk dudes in a bar but from people wanting to seriously harm me, you don't always have the choice to run. Whether teaching someone a lesson is or is not a good reason is debatable. He wasn't smaller than me, even if he were it wouldn't have made a difference unless he looked like he was carrying a weapon, I would have not stood back because of size.
Btw I did not break his nose like you seem to think, I still control myself. I spotted him a week later and he looked fine, I guarantee you getting your nose break is something that doesn't heal overnight. I still evaluate risk, martial arts give you confidence not temerity.
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Post by admin on May 6, 2010 9:52:08 GMT -5
^unless you live in an ivory tower, you're bound to be cornered into confrontation. No, that's really not true at all if you mean a violent confrontation. Everyone has confrontations ("Hey, that was my parking spot!" or "Would you mind moving your jacket so I can sit at that seat?") and every confrontation has the potential to be violent, sure, but you are not as a matter of routine bound to be cornered into a likely violent confrontation. Just doesn't happen. I was thinking how you in another thread talked about how loud everything was in every American city and I am starting to think that you probably live a life that has a little more excitement/danger/action than the average person, yet you think of yourself as 'average' in that regard. That would explain some of the disconnect about your assumptions. Anyway, to answer the question - no. I am not a violent person nor do I advocate violence for anything other than inescapable self-defense. I have a Sig P228 and a Mossberg and a few other goodies and can handle myself without them as well but I have made a deliberate choice to avoid violence as much as possible. I've been in situations that could have easily escalated to violence but I did my best to make sure they did not and have succeeded every time. The problem with whacking people when you think they have wronged you is that people have different ideas of what proper behavior is, and you would end up with everyone whacking each other claiming moral high ground. This is particularly true when cultures are mashed up against one another.
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Post by betahat on May 6, 2010 11:16:49 GMT -5
I'm all in favor of defending yourself from physical violence - the on time I would countenance killing someone is in self-defense. On the other hand, if you're being mugged or assaulted fighting back isn't always the best idea - I'm sure most of the people who are the victims of violence in the world would probably be better off not fighting back. Usually if someone is out there picking a fight or mugging/assaulting/raping you they have a size or tactical advantage. You can't always run but sometimes it's better to lie down and take it. But if you really would headbutt Chuck Lidell when he insulted your girlfriend's honor, then God help you and God bless natural selection And props for being skilled enough in martial arts to apply a gentle controlled headbutt to someone's nose.
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