Seeking My Race-Based Valentine

[palavore]

I caught a reference to this article on a psychology website.

Seeking My Race-Based Valentine Online

This Valentine's Day, more of us than ever will be looking for love online. And if recent studies are any guide, relatively few women on mainstream dating sites will bother to respond to overtures from men of Asian descent. Likewise, black women will be disproportionately snubbed by men of all races. Yes, even though America has been flirting intensely with a postracial label for some time, color blindness is not upheld as an ideal in the realm of online romance.

Stats from the U.C. Irvine study:

- White males got the most replies to their messages but responded the least to women's overtures, in a study of a million-plus OkCupid users
- Black females garnered the lowest response rate of all the women's groups in the OkCupid study
- White females who stated a racial preference on Yahoo! checked just one box, for white men, 64% of the time
- East Indian females were excluded by 82% of white men on Yahoo! who indicated racial preferences
- Hispanic females were included by 52% of white men with racial preferences in the U.C. Irvine study
- East Indian males garnered an average response rate of 21%, the lowest of all race-gender combos on OkCupid
- Hispanic males were excluded by 77% of white women who stated a racial preference in a study of Yahoo! Personals
- Black males on OkCupid drew the lowest reply rate from Asians and the highest from blacks
- Asian males were excluded by 93% of white women with racial preferences in the Yahoo! profiles that U.C. Irvine analyzed

I actually never thought that Asian males were that unattractive in the U.S. I guess the hunchback of Notre-Dame beats Bruce Lee in online dating.

- Asian females got better response rates on OkCupid from blacks, Latinos and East Asians than from Asians

Maybe Asian males deserve it. That's a shame guys...

[Ganbare!]

Not surprising at all, that's what I've been saying on the Asian stereotypes thread, Caucasian women I know don't want to be involved with other races aside the uber confident and good-looking ones. However in real life I see many AM/WF couples but maybe I pay more attention to those, Paris is infested with female Asiaphiles, the feeling of being objectified by girls is truly hilarious. Postracial America is just a slogan, the election of Obama excepted recent studies showed that segregation is back at the levels prior to neighborhoods desegregation 30 years ago.

On the East Coast the racial pairing I've seen the most besides Black Male/White Female is AF/WM but apparently regional differences are significant e.g. Asian guys are more successful in California? Anybody know if we could find statistics for biracials or EAs in particular on niche dating sites or if such data is collected?

[Ganbare!]

I guess people don't look for the same thing online, we tend to be more picky, why not after all? The internet itself thrives on communauties, filters and niche websites exist for this reason. This is why I believe Asian females have a lower response rate from Asian males, they can easily find them in real life via family or friends networks so they go after the White girls they are not likely to seduce or even meet in real life on a regular basis for the most fobby of them.

However, they should not use these statistics as an excuse to fail, ultimately charm is in most cases more important than race, culture, social status or attractiveness..

[jefe]

In North America, and possibly also the UK and parts of Europe, Black females are definitely at a disadvantage - most interracial relationships are BM / WF and WM / AF. And with so many Black males in the penal system or otherwise socially or economically disenfranchised from the system, black females are left high and dry for mates. They are destined to be single mothers with their ex-boyfriends with someone else already or perhaps in jail.

Black males, esp. those with a decent job or income or some education, not only have queues of black women for each one, they also likely have a choice of non-blacks to select from as well. In the dating game, it must be so EASY for them.

With the majority of Asian females marrying OUT to other racial groups, and few white women expressing a preference for Asian men, they may be forced to look back to Asia itself to find a mate, or face a life of bachelorhood. I assume that may also imply that Asian men will also have to PAY for sex more often -- curiously, it might have to be with black females.

I disagree that Asian males find it too easy to find Asian females in real life -- the MAJORITY of Asian females in the USA marry someone of a different race. Even in places like China, the one child per family situation left the country with an over abundance of males - males who will not be able to find a partner.

Black men are simply perceived as being more masculine and Asian women more feminine. Now that global interaction and immigration is just so easy today, I really what that means for the future genetic drift and evolution of humans in the future.

Will Asian men and Black females be able to see each other as desirable partners?

[betahat]

^the MAJORITY of Asian females in the USA marry someone of a different race.

Is that really true? I find it quite surprising indeed.

^Will Asian men and Black females be able to see each other as desirable partners?

There was that Romeo Must Die with Aaliyah and Jet Li, but there was no kiss. I was bloody outraged by that!!! I dated a black girl before, I feel as bad for them as Asian males that they are perceived so "low" in terms of desirability (and worse, they have worse job outcomes and socioeconomic status). I don't know whether it is physical attraction or social status that prevents AM/BF from being more common but it's a shame.

[nealtse]

A Jet Li and Aaliyah make out scene would be so hot, if they weren't scared to touch each other.

[milkman's baby]

Yeah, I didn't know it was the MAJORITY of Asian females. Can you show us your source, jefe? Not that I don't believe you, it's just that I remembered reading somewhere that it was only around 40% - still a lot, but not majority - of Asian females that marry outside Asian.

As for Black females and Asian men, if you do a search on Youtube or throughout message boards by Googling it, you'll find that some have already picked up on this. The vids are kinda cheesy, but enlightening nonetheless and it reassures you that they exist. Black women and Asian men are probably the two most exploited groups in the media, but in totally opposite ways.

Black women on TV:
- Loud, obnoxious
- Poor or with low class demeanor
- Fat
- Sexually outspoken

Asian men on TV:
- Shy and quiet
- Well off financially and academically
- Scrawny
- Asexual

So I guess those two stereotypes aren't helping to bring Asian men and Black women together, either. And then again, it's not like there's THAT many Asian women with Black men either. I've found that Asians are more open than white people about their racial preferences (and it's usually black people at the bottom of their list), if they have any. On the same note, it seems to me that Asians are more open about their racism in general.

I've met maybe one AM/BF couple in my life. It's perhaps worth noting that they were probably the most educated and free of racial stereotypes than anyone else I've met before. Don't know if that's just a coincidence though or if their relationship played a part in that.

[jefe]

Jun 8, 2010 21:25:31 GMT -5 milkman's baby said:

Yeah, I didn't know it was the MAJORITY of Asian females. Can you show us your source, jefe? Not that I don't believe you, it's just that I remembered reading somewhere that it was only around 40% - still a lot, but not majority - of Asian females that marry outside Asian.

Sorry, I think I was quoting that off the top of my head.

I think it is not the majority of Asian females, but the majority of certain subsets of Asian females, ie,
- American-Born Asian females, or
- Japanese-American females, etc.

Yes, I do think that the % is high, but not the majority of all Asian females in the USA. Sorry.

Anyhow,
Over 10% of Chinese males in China will not find any female partner. If we could only find a way to hook up the African-American females with Chinese males.

[One Eye]

So...white women are racist for dating within their race...and Asian women are racist for dating outside their race...okay. Honestly, I get it, negative racial stereotypes abound and each minority has their own set of problems. Xenophobia is bad and so is internalized racism. But really...at the end of the day, people need to be allowed their preferences. It's never going to be a sunshiney, rainbow love, colorblind world. Why am I awake?

[palavore]

Jun 8, 2010 14:46:51 GMT -5 betahat said:

^the MAJORITY of Asian females in the USA marry someone of a different race.

Is that really true? I find it quite surprising indeed.

I think he means that Asian females are most likely to marry outside their race *inside* the U.S. I've been thumbing through the almanac for a few years and it hasn't change much. Except now they lump in Hispanics with whites or blacks.

Also, Asian men and Hispanic females are the least likely to marry outside their race. Where they were married or where they were born might help isolate the effects of American culture. My mother is half Portuguese (not quite Hispanic) and my father is Chinese so that would qualify as a statistically rare pairing.

[jefe]

^Certainly not unusual in places like Macau, or possibly parts of Malaysia or even Taiwan, where Portuguese settled.

[naix]

In Malaysia the Portuguese left are far too diluted to be considered any way Portuguese. At most they will be maybe 5%, no more that their surnames effectively and a dying language spoken by a few thousand people to show for their culture.

[penguinopolipitese]

that's it I'm marrying a black woman.