Blacks Disrespecting Asians

[buffyuna]

I was watching this show on tbs called "House of Payne" (extremely ghetto/stereotypical show, but sometimes I need that in my life haha) and there is this Blasian nail technician who is lying to her parents about being in Med school. Anyway her parents visit the beauty salon and the barber/hairstylist start cracking on the Asian dad. This made me think of how acceptable it is to crack jokes or be racist towards Asians in the black community. In high school, even the Asian kids that were kind of "black washed" got made fun of. I was wondering if the white community also treated Asians as some sort of joke.

Oh and another thing in the episode that was art imitating life was when the black barber totally disrespected the Asian guy by trying to get with his wife. I have seen this many times where black guys will flirt with a girl right in front of the girl's boyfriend if the boyfriend is Asian or white. Yet if it's another black guy they will usually say "my bad" and keep it moving.


*edit* Found a clip of the scene!!

[milkman's baby]

I received this kind of treatment from black students in high school frequently. Most of the racism was in a form of joking that went too far or lewd comments. I can retell several accounts in which the insults were the first words said by the student to me before I even knew them. Normally I am not that PC and it's not like I've never cracked a racist joke or two in my life, but to say offensive comments to someone you're meeting for the first time entitles me to judge your intelligence in so many ways.

There have been some times when I've heard white people make racist jokes about Asians or Latinos in front of them, which they could never say in front a black person. Asians can indeed be too defensive and PC about Asian jokes but I think there are more Asians who are passive about those things than black people. And still, I think white people are more cautious about racial subjects more so than any other race.

Some of the kids in high school who made those comments could have been reacting in part of a vicious cycle - perhaps they received racist treatment from an Asian before in their life. Or some of those kids could have just been plain ignorant and trashy. I'll never know, but for the longest time I could never get over the fact that almost all these comments and jokes were coming from black people. As I got older and found myself on the receiving end of similar stereotypes and generalizations that blacks receive, I realized I really just have to train myself to forget about race and attribute it to the individual only. It's easier said than done for many people (actually, MOST people) but perhaps I had a leg up because when I went off to college the only black people around me didn't fall into any of the negative generalizations I had. I got used to it and so I conditioned myself out of assuming every black person must be this way or that way.

[buffyuna]

That's good that college gave you a different view of black people. My black friends in college tend to be more on the neo soul/ indie side, think natural hair and jazz clubs lol. The few "ignant" black friends I have are more so for partying, plus I grew up booshie so its fun to get in touch with my ghetto side. Altho I cringe at the self hating crap that comes out there mouths sometimes.

[milkman's baby]

Jun 15, 2010 2:40:49 GMT -5 buffyuna said:

That's good that college gave you a different view of black people. My black friends in college tend to be more on the neo soul/ indie side, think natural hair and jazz clubs lol. The few "ignant" black friends I have are more so for partying, plus I grew up booshie so its fun to get in touch with my ghetto side. Altho I cringe at the self hating crap that comes out there mouths sometimes.

Yeah, I think college is usually a great place for black students as well as other students who need to be exposed to the less stereotypical black people. I think a lot of black people, especially girls, feel more comfortable expressing themselves in college than living in a mostly black community. I should've mentioned some of those black students in HS I had trouble with weren't just harassing me but other black students as well. The intelligent, less stereotypical types of black kids got made fun of so much. There was also an issue with black girls who don't straighten their hair. It's become almost a "requirement" for black girls to have straight hair, and a girl can get made fun of pretty badly if she wears it naturally. It always kinda pissed me off and I always wondered, what if all Asians expected Asian girls to get eyelid surgery?

[meep]

I've never really experienced racism coming from African Americans, which has to do with the fact I live in Australia. My friend who went to the States for university exchange claimed that many black men love Asian women, and crack onto them at any chance... Wondering if this is truth?

[betahat]

There was a black kid who made fun of me in Middle School and used racial epithets. But there weren't a lot of Asians or blacks at any of my schools. I think part of it could be that Asians stereotypically embody many of the things that blacks mock within their own community - "acting white" by being studious, nerdy, being less athletic and masculine, etc. People who are less aggressive and likely to fight back. Which could explain why the same kids picking on Asians also picked on nerdy black kids. Another aspect is overall social relations, such as resentment of Korean grocers in the inner city. Asians are usually a more vulnerable minority than whites, don't have a history of banding together and fighting back, and might be easier prey as they are lower on the social food chain. But in the end it comes down to individuals as you say, and I don't know how representative our experiences are (and whether they apply at all outside of the particular racial and cultural environment of North America).

[milkman's baby]

Jun 16, 2010 5:40:07 GMT -5 meep said:

I've never really experienced racism coming from African Americans, which has to do with the fact I live in Australia. My friend who went to the States for university exchange claimed that many black men love Asian women, and crack onto them at any chance... Wondering if this is truth?

Well, it's stereotype and of course you always have to remember this. But like they say, there is little truth to every stereotype otherwise it wouldn't be one. I think the classic image was supposed to be some smack-talking black guy who hits on white or Asian girls just for the fun of it. Usually not because he's really interested in her, more so just to harass or intimidate the woman. It's more so a joke.

But no, I don't think there is a trend for black men being infatuated with Asian women. There's another stereotype out there that every black man's dream is a busty blonde white woman, but not Asian women. Those things are often exaggerated by white people. Your friend probably just said that because those were the only black men she came across. Sometimes it only takes three or four instances for people to coin a stereotype.

[TeeHee]

Back in 2005 when that tsunami struck SE Asia, there was the "Tsunami Song" played by some of the staff at the radio station Hot 97. dragonballyee.blogs.com/philly/2005/01/the_tsunami_son.html
Miss Info(Minya Oh), who was of Korean background, distanced herself from it, saying how it offended her as an Asian person. Well, Miss Jones, who was black, totally got on her case for it. You can hear it all on the mp3 link on that page.

[buffyuna]

Jun 17, 2010 0:20:07 GMT -5 TeeHee said:

Back in 2005 when that tsunami struck SE Asia, there was the "Tsunami Song" played by some of the staff at the radio station Hot 97. dragonballyee.blogs.com/philly/2005/01/the_tsunami_son.html
Miss Info(Minya Oh), who was of Korean background, distanced herself from it, saying how it offended her as an Asian person. Well, Miss Jones, who was black, totally got on her case for it. You can hear it all on the mp3 link on that page.

Oh yeah I remember that, she's a psycho!