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Post by klacoste on Sept 11, 2007 5:37:48 GMT -5
If you feel I'm being discriminatory or streotypical than so be it. 'worst comes to worst my people comes first' Can you say that with a straight-face when you think of the Hapa Meister? ;D
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Post by juancarlos on Sept 11, 2007 6:23:17 GMT -5
Exactly. We get some sh*t from the whites and from the Asians. Why wouldn't we have a place where we have the opportunity to give back some of that sh*t to them ?? If there are too much PCness imposed, then the place will become brain dead with PCness. It's one specificity of EAN, we get some space to BS the monoracials, although one hundredth the amount they are doing on us. Life is indeed full of ironies!!!
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Post by Flat Top on Sept 11, 2007 6:52:37 GMT -5
Why don't we stop WHINING about what should be? Complain complain. Here is my UN-PC moment. Jews, blacks, and Muslims get a lot of discrimination. My theory is it's partially due to complaining too much. Now I'm hearing so much EA complaining that I've become less sympathetic. Imagine if you date a woman. All she does everyday is complain. At first you'll be sympathetic and listen. After continuous daily complaining on the same things, you get tired of her and want her out of your life.
Let's just post our thoughts. Take the risk that it's not PC. I don't like PC so don't be PC. Use common sense but take the risk. If a moderator is offended, hopefully you will be warned. If you get banned, so what? Life goes on without EAN. It's not a death sentence to be banned from here.
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Post by Ajeno on Sept 11, 2007 8:21:06 GMT -5
^Well said Seraphina. Rules and Regulations for EurasianNation Forums The purpose of the EurasianNation Forums is to provide a place where people with an interest in Eurasian or other multiracial/ interracial/ transracial issues can connect, discuss, and share their ideas in a positive way. I read that b4 i joined and i spoke to admin being that i had to register by email.I really dig what Carmen V.K is trying to do with her work and wanted to get in on it but after being here awhile i see what this site is aimed at.I try not to meddle because i know by experience on another board how annoying outsiders can be with spam.I will also say its sad that some people have ruined it for others.
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Post by avax on Sept 11, 2007 9:37:21 GMT -5
When I first came to ean a few years ago it was only eurasians. The utopic balance held for awhile when the membership was smaller. I remember a time when people felt more open, they wanted to write not to be helped but to help too. Sometimes writing for no reason, giving each other glimpses of the lives they lived in whichever corner of the world they were. I learned a lot. I also learned it wasn't enough somewhere along the way.
Jean's site is nothing new on the face of ean. I also remember a time when members would gossip (and I assume still do somewhere out there) to the high heavens on messenger systems. The only difference was that it had the effect of seeming slightly more discreet. But the slander was no less cruel, ineffective or maybe unnecessary. How many funny things I have heard about all of you through the grapevine, of myself, that came back to haunt me sometimes. I think since then I've tried to extract myself as much as possible from the "underground". It isn't necessary. It was often spiteful even in play.
I also think at times I too have spammed ean. Somehow I get away with it because I've been here for so long. Members like CS and EAO have done nothing wrong but rumours have a way of getting around, nasty tendrils. Somehow there is a hint of truth beneath the filth. Like most stereotypes. But it's warped. If others have felt certain members make them feel unsafe, I'm willing to listen.
Sometimes I come here too and it seems one member has been sitting at the computer for far too long. Something I do occasionally too when I'm stuck to my desk. It may be hypocrisy but perhaps it's no longer a 'political' question - whether ean should have non-eas or not - but about the somewhat democratic decision to vote off specific members because of inherent qualities and virtues that don't match the general consensus.
The forum is for eurasians, their thoughts, their needs and their questions and stories. I hope I haven't done too much damage insisting that non-eas stick around. I also realize non-eas are powerful voices that may be searching for their "place" too. Yet if it means killing off the safe haven ean once was, I do not think the welcome should be extended.
I hope that the administration reads this and listens to the people and the membership of eurasians first and foremost. Maybe avoid the mistake I made or correct it and stabilize the forum again. I know no one takes their authority lightly. Lately it's saddened me, coming here. I wish we could be happy again, as cheesy as that sounds. Listen to the majority. The site was built for the voices of eurasians first and foremost. I don't think it's about hypocrisy any longer but restoring what used to be and what is meant to be here.
I wish I had never heard or read some of the things some have posted here or elsewhere. I'm disappointed and just sad. It seems I've misjudged the characters of a few. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I wish all of you, every single one, the best. Administrators, listen to the people.
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Post by Roam'n on Sept 11, 2007 10:09:30 GMT -5
^ fwiw, I'm not even curious to visit the the_cuckoos_nest site...
I think the mistake being made is thinking 'eurasianness' begets 'forum membership' which begets 'decency'. Obviously, the last bit is fallacious conclusion.
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Post by xandra on Sept 11, 2007 11:15:56 GMT -5
I have never had a problem with parents of EAs coming to this board. I'm happy that they recognize that their children may have different identity issues growing up than other kids, and that they want to learn so they can try to help their kids through it as much as they can. They also tend to ask good questions.
What saddens me is when non-EAs come to the board for whatever purpose and then start to take over the board. Maybe it's hypocritical/racist/whatever, but if this board is primarily for Eurasians why would you want to come in as a non-Eurasian and participate more than many of the other posters? It's like someone crashing a party and drinking all the beer. There are a lot of message boards out there for a variety of different topics, not quite sure what is so special about this one for people to stick around even if they know they make other people uncomfortable. The only reason that has really stood out to me was the young female posters, who these people tend to flirt with quite openly (and I'm sure privately). Is it really that surprising that people will be upset about this?
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Post by Ajeno on Sept 11, 2007 12:16:04 GMT -5
I may catch heat for saying this.But why dont you guys just assert yourselves more and tell people (Non-ea or whatever)who you feel are bringing down the quality to just GTFO? You have a right to voice your opinion openly regardless.And why not email the admin's to bring about reform?
Xandra - Initially when i came here i wanted to make threads about race and get people's input but my first thread bombed from what i remember.Last thing i wanted to do was post too much and over do it ya know.I definitely feel you though you guys should have your own thing.Like i said i know how annoying it is to have so many outsiders on a board thats not for them.
j3aN62 - When i saw your site after someone posted it here a couple days ago I thought it was a cesspool for stalkers and weirdos.Personally,I feel you should be banned for letting that happen.Hopefully you didnt mean for it to turn out that way though man.No hard feelings im just being honest.
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Post by juancarlos on Sept 11, 2007 17:54:14 GMT -5
What saddens me is when non-EAs come to the board for whatever purpose and then start to take over the board. Maybe it's hypocritical/racist/whatever, but if this board is primarily for Eurasians why would you want to come in as a non-Eurasian and participate more than many of the other posters? It's like someone crashing a party and drinking all the beer. There are a lot of message boards out there for a variety of different topics, not quite sure what is so special about this one for people to stick around even if they know they make other people uncomfortable. The only reason that has really stood out to me was the young female posters, who these people tend to flirt with quite openly (and I'm sure privately). Is it really that surprising that people will be upset about this? Xandra, I understand your concerns. But please do not paint every non-EA on this board with the same brush. You know what, if you don't want non-EA's on this board, just say it, but don't resort to calling all of us "stalkers" and "pedophiles". The reason why I came here in the first place is because I may not be Eurasian by blood, but I am an Asian living in the West, and that brings about some similar issues that you guys face. I also have close relatives who are Eurasians. Heck, I may also have traces of German blood, though that's so far up my ancestral line already. Needless to say, there are other reasons on why non-EA's come to this board.
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Post by Flat Top on Sept 11, 2007 18:19:30 GMT -5
I see EAN as a reflection of life. I too want us to be our happy selves but in RL we aren't always happy. EAN does feel "dark" right now but that's what happens. Like in a marriage "for better or for worse." Bad things will happen on EA but I think most of us our decent people regardless of race. I'm here to have a cyber social network but know not everyone is going to be my cyberfriend just like real life.
Further I am EA but honestly I in RL I would probably feel more comfortable among Latinos than fellow EAs. I'm not Latina but I love the culture. I love the food, music, warmth, history, architecture, aromas, etc. I can understand why a non-EA would visit this forum. Sometimes you just feel a connection to people who share different roots.
I knew a Chinese lady who Indian danced, ate INdian food, had Indian friends. She was an Indian in the body of a Chinese woman. Since she's "Indian" she probably was Indian in a past life and reincarnated into a Chinese. She's accepted and respected among the Indian community here as a classical Indian dancer as well as honorary Indian.
I come to EAN and mixedasians.com to fill the mixed asian void in my life but just because someone is part white/Asian doesn't mean I'll automatically feel something. It depends. For example what if someone is part Swede/Korean. We may look alike but what do I have in common with a Swede or Korean or even European or Asian? I'm from the US. Would a Southern black American have a lot in common with an Somali? A good number of the black Americans would probably get along better with the white rednecks than a Somali.
I'm just rambling thoughts above. Maybe for many of you "EA" is an important label. For me, it's not, maybe that's why I feel different about the non-EAs. If you guys were all my same exact mix, which non of you are, maybe I'd feel different. My fellow EAs make up a good piece of a pie that fills up my tummy but I don't consider you the whole or even majority of the pie.
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Post by Flat Top on Sept 11, 2007 18:23:03 GMT -5
The Freedom board amuses me. It's a place for EA guys who need to get laid. I see no harm in it. They get to be kids and act weird not in a psychotic way but basically they just need a good EA lay.
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Post by xandra on Sept 11, 2007 18:53:54 GMT -5
What saddens me is when non-EAs come to the board for whatever purpose and then start to take over the board. Maybe it's hypocritical/racist/whatever, but if this board is primarily for Eurasians why would you want to come in as a non-Eurasian and participate more than many of the other posters? It's like someone crashing a party and drinking all the beer. There are a lot of message boards out there for a variety of different topics, not quite sure what is so special about this one for people to stick around even if they know they make other people uncomfortable. The only reason that has really stood out to me was the young female posters, who these people tend to flirt with quite openly (and I'm sure privately). Is it really that surprising that people will be upset about this? Xandra, I understand your concerns. But please do not paint every non-EA on this board with the same brush. You know what, if you don't want non-EA's on this board, just say it, but don't resort to calling all of us "stalkers" and "pedophiles". The reason why I came here in the first place is because I may not be Eurasian by blood, but I am an Asian living in the West, and that brings about some similar issues that you guys face. I also have close relatives who are Eurasians. Heck, I may also have traces of German blood, though that's so far up my ancestral line already. Needless to say, there are other reasons on why non-EA's come to this board. Sorry Juancarlos, I guess I should have been a little less vague. I had someone in mind when I was writing that post but didn't make myself clear. I can understand that an asian living in North America or Europe, etc would feel a lot of commonalities with eurasians. This whole issue is complicated because I've befriended some non-EAs that posted on the board, whose presence I don't/didn't feel uncomfortable with, and yet there are others (and I have voiced my opinions in the past about most of them) who seem to be here for one thing but will adamantly defend their right to post here. I'm not completely opposed to non-EAs posting here, but there have been a few whose actions and motives have seemed rather suspect to me. Whether that be asking young female (underaged) posters to post more pictures or posting soft porn in the EA eye candy threads and shoving the middle class heterosexual white male perspective down people's throats. I guess the easiest thing to point to is their non-EAness, but maybe we should talk about decorum and trying to protect younger posters. Sorry if I offended anyone, just saying how I feel. I don't think I should be made to feel like I'm jealous/insecure/self-absorbed/etc for feeling the way I feel. I know I'm not the only one. Look at how many people have deleted their accounts in the last few months. And if this board is full of the above, why stick around?
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Post by xandra on Sept 11, 2007 19:19:21 GMT -5
Well then if you like this place so much maybe you should consider why you are getting such negative reactions from people and change the way you interact on the board. Perhaps then people wouldn't call you out as a predator!
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Post by salut on Sept 12, 2007 1:57:17 GMT -5
Oh EAN.
Call me crazy, but I don't necessarily think it's the predators that are the problem. It's the fact that people here are so willing to post their photos and give out all sorts of information about themselves. There are plenty of members who have posted their name, age, location and where they go to school alongside some kind of "mysterious"/"drunk"/"random (but posed)" photo. On top of that, all you have to do is find the full name of one EAN member(which is easy, there are even a couple threads on names/surnames), and you can have access to virtually everyone, thanks to facebook. Idk, people always complain about predators and fetishists, but a lot of members are spoon feeding everyone else personal information about themselves; it's simply a matter of how everyone else chooses to use that information. Someone is bound to exploit it and you're going to attract that kind of attention if you give all that info out..Srsly you're practically screaming for it. It's not a private forum in any sense and IMO one would be naive to think that they won't get some kind of -ve attention here when you're so willing to divulge your private life to a bunch of strangers. You can point fingers at so called predators but if you keep feeding them they'll just keep coming back for more. Even Cristobalgate only scared pic posters away for a week or so...then they were back to their old tricks.
Ok I'm drunk. Rant done.
BTW Welcome new EANners!!!111111
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Post by klacoste on Sept 12, 2007 4:59:17 GMT -5
^ jean, isn't this what you like? Stirring drama?
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