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Post by cheeseprata on Jun 23, 2007 7:12:04 GMT -5
I love how you became independent of your parents while becoming dependent on the government. Fully supporting yourself indeed. For myself, I stopped being financially-dependent on my parents the same time they stopped being financially-dependent on themselves, with a little financial-planning help from me. What about going out there and proving your independence from the government? I'm sure there's a distinction as well. It's the distinction between being a trustafarian and being a fat black woman named Laqueesha with three kids by as many fathers. Sometimes parents put conditions on their children receiving financial support from them. Other times, they help their young adult children out who are already in the workforce due to the high cost of living in large cities and low entry-level salaries. How would that be substantially different than receiving it from the government? For me, what this really comes down to is a question of fully supporting oneself as was initially stated. If you're receiving financial assistance of any kind in doing so, you can't be said to be. And really, I find the whole notion of fully supporting oneself to be rather high and mighty. Unless you parachute into the middle of the Amazon with only a knife and a half-litre of water, you really aren't. And the only people who financially support themselves generate more value by living than they consume. They probably live a pretty crappy lifestyle. Economically, you have to generate more economic value for others by the sweat of your brow than you consume to be fully supporting yourself. But really, much economic value is created by machines. #1) If you're getting money from the government, you're not fully supporting yourself. #2) Even if you work for a living, a lot of the value you allegedly generate comes from other sources. *yawn*
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Post by jewbird on Jun 25, 2007 23:38:50 GMT -5
That 2nd point was rather a philosophical musing. No, I think you're right in that it is just about not sharing a living space with the folks. Beyond that I don't think it matters where one's money comes from as long as it's there and there's no debt accumulating.
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Post by Ave` on Oct 30, 2007 11:37:40 GMT -5
yeap moved out when I was 12. Got offered to a boarding school and got scholarship too. So, I can say that as being independent. At first it was hard, but things do look up after a couple of years. I never went back. College in Penang Island then KL, University Malaya for A-level then bachelor in Japan and woking now. Theres nothing of me in my home now. A photo frame is prolly the only proof I belong in that house heh.
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Post by Pushnpull on Nov 23, 2007 1:46:17 GMT -5
18. That's when I said bye bye to mom and dad and joined the army. Then again I don't know if I should count that as supporting myself. The army did cloth, feed and house me. I didn't have to pay rent until I was 22.
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Post by attilathehun513 on Dec 28, 2007 20:53:41 GMT -5
In another two or three years.
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Post by fumanchu on Dec 28, 2007 22:02:05 GMT -5
I was renting houses out to other people while i was still living at home......beat that for mooching! ;D
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Post by eimak on Apr 7, 2008 8:16:38 GMT -5
i moved out when I was 14 because my parents lived in Ghana back then and there wasn't really a school for me there.. but yeah, they still pay for my housing but for shopping and stuff I have to work for and get student support from the Danish government.
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Post by Tamy on Apr 11, 2008 2:25:07 GMT -5
I moved out when I was 17, to go to uni.
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Post by meep on Apr 11, 2008 5:51:47 GMT -5
I am moving out soon, to live with my boyfriend and friend. Rent in Sydney is expensive, and I will be poor. But the life experience that I will gain from moving out of home will outweigh my soon to be poor self.
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Post by teek on Apr 11, 2008 6:29:38 GMT -5
I am moving out soon, to live with my boyfriend and friend. Rent in Sydney is expensive, and I will be poor. But the life experience that I will gain from moving out of home will outweigh my soon to be poor self. Whoot, you go girl! ;D
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Post by meep on Apr 14, 2008 6:06:18 GMT -5
I am moving out soon, to live with my boyfriend and friend. Rent in Sydney is expensive, and I will be poor. But the life experience that I will gain from moving out of home will outweigh my soon to be poor self. What's a comfortable 2 bedroom, a loft or a studio apt's monthly rent like? just curious. A comfortable one close to the city will be about $380 a week. Thats for a 2 bedroom apartment.
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Post by straylight on Apr 14, 2008 9:29:17 GMT -5
16. With my brother (who was 7 yrs older). Didn't last long. He was on some veggie trip (in an almost Nazi like way), and only allowed a lot of undesirable meals to be eaten. I could only take brussel sprout sandwiches after so long.
Then it was back to my parents' again. It wasn't until my friends turned 18 that they moved out, and I had some decent roommate options.
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ibzie
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Post by ibzie on Apr 27, 2008 2:20:48 GMT -5
I was 20 so Ive been living on my own for over two years..and yes I support myself
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Post by Ganbare! on May 26, 2010 3:46:21 GMT -5
I have a mother and a father who are supportive and who allowed me to sponge off them until I got a job after university. So financially I was independent at 21. I moved out then as well but since I was in the same city I wasnt really too independent emotionally. Now is that so f***ing bad and horrible? That I have loving parents who supported me and as a result Im very grateful for? As CJF said I am far more successful than had I had to work while studying and become burdened with thousands in degree debts. Im sick of f***ers with a holier than thou attitude telling me "oooo look at me at how independent I am Im so much better than you because of it because _I_ got to live on my own since I was SIXTEEN YEARS OLD" . Jesus F Christ and f*** you. I'm starting to notice a lot of things I've been discussing lately has already been covered in older posts but I disgress. About the high and mighty attitude, for most people it solely is motivated by jealousy. I've supported myself since I'm 17, never returned to living to my mother's house as I wouldn't want her to have to bear a bunch of noisy, drunk or high young adults coming back at 3 p.m. every week ends. Trustfund babies irritate me a little, less out of pure hate than knowing those type of individuals tend to have weak personalities, a lot of my friends have never worked despite being over 22. Boasting you have a head start in life because of superior grades or no debt shows how much contempt you hold for lower social classes, you have zero merit for being born in the right family, loser... Not only have I attended two world-class universities but I have no debt thanks to an efficient mix of government grants, scholarships and work so don't ever try to lecture me via PM ever again jimmy.
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buffyuna
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Post by buffyuna on May 26, 2010 18:36:59 GMT -5
Moved out at 18, still getting support from parents at 23. I feel guilty, but whatever i'm not gonna turn down free money.
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