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Post by halfbreed on Jul 14, 2007 10:21:45 GMT -5
Has anybody got a half brother or sister that's full Asian or white? If they're Asian, how do they get along with your white parent? If they're white, how do they get along with your Asian parent?
Also, how does your white parent's friends treat your Asian parent and vice versa?
I have a white half-sister. She's really mean to my Asian mother (e.g. sending my father and I presents at Christmas, etc. and 'accidentally' forgetting to send my mother's - or when she actually does have one, putting it on the bench and 'forgetting' to give it to her until everyone else has finished opening theirs). She also must've bitched about her because when my mum went to greet one of my sister's guests (my sister and her boyfriend brought a friend to stay in our spare apartment), she offered her hand for a handshake and he said, "I'm not shaking your hand." I may cut off my sister for this.
Also, my white dad's white friends are mean to my mum. They ignore her and snap at her for no reason. My mum's friends treat my dad like a person.
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Post by EA Observer on Jul 14, 2007 15:31:13 GMT -5
halfbreed, you must be making this up or exaggerating, right? Why, how can all these "enlightened", "multicultural" and "colorblind", most civilized white folks ever be like that towards non-whites?
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Post by EA Observer on Jul 14, 2007 19:04:56 GMT -5
^Knew an Indian girl who gave birth to her half-black child and disowned by her family. Also knew a tight Christian Taiwanese family who disowned their daughter after she gave birth to her half-white child. They won't even have anything to do with their own innocent grandchild. Lastly my Vietnamese friend hides her white boyfriends from her family because they were livid when her sister married a white guy. Every race is prejudiced. I have experienced prejudice from ALL races. That's obviously true and I can't and won't deny it. But, at least you know up front that most Asian or non-Western cultures discourage or oppose interracial relationships openly, so you know ahead where they stand on the issue. Not saying it's right (or wrong, for that matter) - but, they don't clalim to be open-minded, open this and open that, like the hypocritical Westerners who love to talk the talk, but not walk the walk in such matters - at least not the majority of them, anyway.
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Post by halfbreed on Jul 15, 2007 0:03:24 GMT -5
halfbreed, you must be making this up or exaggerating, right? Why, how can all these "enlightened", "multicultural" and "colorblind", most civilized white folks ever be like that towards non-whites? What are you talking about??
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Post by tempestWHAT on Jul 15, 2007 5:13:11 GMT -5
Whites MUST be open-opened or at least pretend. If not they suffer repercussions. Other races and cultural groups can be less tactful but must all be careful... Admittingly I have my prejudices. If you spoke with me, you'd think I were a racist... If a black, Muslim, Asian immigrant or Latino says something hurtful or disrespectful, I'm scared to defend myself and state why they're wrong (in my view). If it's a guy I get less frightened but oh sometimes those guys will react like they'll rape and kill you. One must be careful. I'm scared to speak my mind because it could be misconstrued that I'm highly prejudice or out of line. Now if a white says something as bad, I can say whatever I want because c'mon, we're the victims so WE can say whatever we want against whites. I have no fear speaking my mind to whites unless I'm in a roomful of people....can't lose face and burn bridges. No offense, but you ARE racist because there's something stopping you from saying what ever you want, just because the other person is of a different race. Someone confirm this: "There's no real justification in racial discrimination."
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Post by EA Observer on Jul 15, 2007 11:27:15 GMT -5
halfbreed, you must be making this up or exaggerating, right? Why, how can all these "enlightened", "multicultural" and "colorblind", most civilized white folks ever be like that towards non-whites? What are you talking about?? What do you mean what am I talking about? Isn't this thread about your Asian mom is getting dissed by your bigoted white relatives because of her ethnicity/culture, or does it have nothing to do with it?? If not, why make references to her and her in-laws' ethnicities?
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Post by EA Observer on Jul 15, 2007 11:36:14 GMT -5
^ Thanks I'll start speaking my mind. You're right I'm such bigot because I visited my friend's workplace. Her black/East Indian boss said something racist to me and I was so racist that I didn't defend myself because I didn't want to create tension between my friend and her boss. Shall I list more examples. I can't always be quick and witty. You have to be careful with the battles you choose. At that moment my friend's work relations trumped my pride. It's all the more when non-whites who complain about white racism turn right around and act racists toward other non-whites - in a white-owned society. Unfortunately, I think the South Asians have a bad reputation for this. They complain that white-skinned Caucasians, i.e., Westerners, discriminate against them, but they discriminate against non-whites, like East Asians, because they think they are still superior Indo- Europeans, i.e. Caucasian stocks, compared to the latter.
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Post by avax on Jul 15, 2007 13:35:24 GMT -5
Unfortunately, I think the South Asians have a bad reputation for this. They complain that white-skinned Caucasians, i.e., Westerners, discriminate against them, but they discriminate against non-whites, like East Asians, because they think they are still superior Indo- Europeans, i.e. Caucasian stocks, compared to the latter. Interesting. I've always seen the opposite. East asians being pretty racist in general. I was at a night market the other day (chinese) and my indian friends were not only snubbed but told off! Needless to say I felt embarrassed for their sake. In the midst of all these chinese, we wanted to find some place to sit and eat. Ironically who jumps up and offers three stools and a place? Two indian fathers feeding two little girls, presumably their daughters. I've never met indians who insist they are superior indo-europeans. Most of them are proud they come from india and are independent of white people. At most I see indians wanting to be black due to pop culture and pseudo hip hop. ______________________ Regarding HB's topic, We had racism. Not anymore, for the most part. No full siblings, only cousins. From some of the other responses, I wonder how much bitterness was due to the break up of the parents/family, rather than racism.
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Post by EA Observer on Jul 15, 2007 14:01:35 GMT -5
^ It must be different up there in Canuckland. ;D
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Post by avax on Jul 15, 2007 14:03:38 GMT -5
Apparently we're also less racist.
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Post by EA Observer on Jul 15, 2007 14:11:44 GMT -5
I know. When you live down below the Lower 48 for many years, it kinda grows on you. ;D
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Post by rolls on Jul 15, 2007 19:38:45 GMT -5
Seems like your dad needs to get his act together and put a stop to this sort of behaviour from your sister and his friends, as quite clearly it's unacceptable. If i was in his situation if my friends disrespected my wife they are disrespecting me.
Am i right in thinking it was your parent's owned apartment? If that was the case I would throw them out. That really is disgusting behaviour not shaking your host's hand so much so I would probably be in a mild state of shock.
Anyways I have 2 half-white sisters from my Dad's previous marriage. The relationship i would say is fairly complicated without going into too much detail one of them considers her as her mum and the other, well they dont get along too well and she isnt really on best of terms with the rest of the family.
Forgot to mention my Dad's friends treat my mum normally and vice-versa.
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Post by tempestWHAT on Jul 16, 2007 0:31:24 GMT -5
Thanks I'll start speaking my mind. You're right I'm such bigot because I visited my friend's workplace. Her black/East Indian boss said something racist to me and I was so racist that I didn't defend myself because I didn't want to create tension between my friend and her boss. Good move. No doubt I would've done the same; not because he's black/east Indian, but because he's a racist idiot. I find that arguing with unreasonable racists are just pointless; they'll stick to their theory and you go nowhere. But you should take in mind that, just because one Indian was a racist doesn't mean ALL Indians are. -That's pretty obvious; perhaps not to racists. Halfbreed I agree with rolls. Your dad's gotta step up.
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Post by halfbreed on Jul 16, 2007 0:34:20 GMT -5
What are you talking about?? What do you mean what am I talking about? Isn't this thread about your Asian mom is getting dissed by your bigoted white relatives because of her ethnicity/culture, or does it have nothing to do with it?? If not, why make references to her and her in-laws' ethnicities? It does have to do with ethnicity. I just have no idea why you implied I thought whites to be 'colorblind', etc.
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Post by jenming on Jul 16, 2007 3:05:45 GMT -5
I have 2 younger sisters, and 3 younger brothers who are full asian, but I'm not sure that I have anything meaningful to contribute to the things you brought up. My dad is married to their mom, so they don't really interact with my mom. I just have an asian family with 9 people, and a white one with 3 (including me).
I kind of have to agree with rolls. If your dad sets a good example, and also makes it explicit that his wife is not to be disrespected, then he can make it happen. It might not change the way they actually feel, but it will at least allow your mom to go on without getting so much flak.
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