ganbat
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Post by ganbat on Sept 9, 2007 15:07:31 GMT -5
in my experience, people that are 1/2 or 1/4 asian are considered mixes, whereas people that are 1/8 asian are regarded as just white or whatever their non-asian background may be. does only having 1/8 asian blood really make you less connected to your own family and less connected to your asian heritage? personally, i think of 1/8 asians as mixed. what do you guys think?
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tbw
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Post by tbw on Sept 9, 2007 15:28:00 GMT -5
If 7/8 is Caucasian and 1/8 is Asian, then they are still mixed (there will be some features that come through from the Asian side.) But its totally in the persons personality if they want to explore their roots. Its not that they are less-connected with their own family or Asian heritage, they just may never have the interaction with that side of the family for them to think about it to great extents. To be 1/8, your grandparent would be 1/2 - meaning only one great grandparent would be of full Asian decent. How well tradition or the heritage is passed down 3 generations can vary greatly depending on the family itself.
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Post by penguinopolipitese on Sept 9, 2007 16:04:00 GMT -5
i'd actually consider 1/4 asians white. s***, bruce lee was 1/4 white, but to the world he is chinese.
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Post by Aiko on Sept 10, 2007 0:32:02 GMT -5
Genes get passed down in unpredictable ways. I have a 1/16 Russian cousin and she's extremely fair, have brown hair, honey colored eyes, tall nose and not to mention, super tall. It's so obvious she's got something mixed in her, but she doesn't speak a word of Russian and identifies as Chinese. That's how her life is.
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Post by Ave` on Sept 10, 2007 1:18:34 GMT -5
Genes get passed down in unpredictable ways. I have a 1/16 Russian cousin and she's extremely fair, have brown hair, honey colored eyes, tall nose and not to mention, super tall. It's so obvious she's got something mixed in her, but she doesn't speak a word of Russian and identifies as Chinese. That's how her life is. so true i have a cousin who 100% asian but with green eyes, no idea where he got it. However, its just looks. It doesnt change who you are inside. tbh, I think 1/8 is too far fetched. Its like trying to get hold of something that youre most probably not. simple way to say ..a wannabe I have 1/8 ceylonis blood in me.My granma practically plucks tea everyday as she told me but to assume I have anything to do with ceylonis people is to0 hypocrite.
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Post by 2bob on Sept 10, 2007 2:35:22 GMT -5
I'm a quarter Asian, but I don't have an Azn grandparent; they're both half azn as well as my mum. So I dont see how that classifies as me being white If your 1/8 azn it doesn't really count........ I mean its like your trying to distance yourself from everyone else going around saying "im 1/8 asian!" unless you actually understand the asian culture your fam comes from
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Post by kastila on Sept 10, 2007 23:37:12 GMT -5
in my experience, people that are 1/2 or 1/4 asian are considered mixes, whereas people that are 1/8 asian are regarded as just white or whatever their non-asian background may be. does only having 1/8 asian blood really make you less connected to your own family and less connected to your asian heritage? personally, i think of 1/8 asians as mixed. what do you guys think? What's the cultural context of this question? I know plenty of people living outside of the Philippines who are fully one-half Filipino and yet have a fairly superficial understanding about Philippine culture, values, history, language, geography, etc. To me, the fact that one of their parents is a full-blooded Ilocano, Tagalog, Cebuano, etc. is just a trivial statistic. I also happen to know quite a few people in the Philippines, and now abroad, whose ancestry is 7/8, or more, European in origin but grew up immersed in mainstream Philippine culture, share Philippine values, understand an indigenous Philippine dialect, know Philippine history, pledge their allegiance to the Philippines, and know in their heart that they will always be Filipinos. Now tell me that they aren't true Filipinos.
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ganbat
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Post by ganbat on Sept 12, 2007 18:26:02 GMT -5
-for kastila, the context is that of people of mixed 1/8 and 7/8 of another, non-asian ethnicitie(s). for seraphina, yes, kalmyks are the central aisan people that migrated out of mongolia to european russia (caspian sea)
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Post by honeyviper on Sept 12, 2007 19:53:20 GMT -5
I think it's possible to be culturally grounded even with a lower "blood quantum". I've seen it happen with friends of mixed ancestry before.
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Post by catgirl on Sept 14, 2007 8:18:04 GMT -5
A 1/4 viet girl I know looks like the rest of the Norwegian population. Even more Nordic than many of them....
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Post by catgirl on Sept 14, 2007 8:22:34 GMT -5
A 1/4 viet girl I know looks like the rest of the Norwegian population. Even more Nordic than many of them.... But shes more vietnamese than me in a way, cause she even knows the language and I dont. Embarassing...
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Post by cjsdad on Sept 14, 2007 9:19:51 GMT -5
3 of my 1st cousins are 1/4 African-American. One is blonde and blue eyed. The other 2 are darker but still appear "white".
I believe that environment plays a huge part in how much "culture" is absorbed by the child.
This is why I am here, in an attempt to learn from all of you.
Oh, and to update some of my earlier language questions....the local community college does not offer Korean, but I got an early birthday present....Korean language CD's, which I am listening to in my car during my commutes! very cool. Also, our nanny speaks almost exclusively Korean to CJ, and just the other day she spoke Korean to her mom! super cool Now, when I'm good enough at it, I'm gonna practice with her too! uber cool.
Just wanted to share all that.
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jpeezy
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Post by jpeezy on Sept 14, 2007 13:18:00 GMT -5
My gf is 1/8 Blackfoot Native American and 7/8 Euro (mostly Hungarian and Norwegian) and she has pale blue eyes, fair skin, and dark blonde hair. Sooo, I guess at 1/8 you get pretty washed out by the other 7/8's.
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swordcane
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Post by swordcane on Sept 27, 2007 19:13:04 GMT -5
I think there are many factors, and it depends on the situations.
If someone is 1/8, I think it's up to them to decide what they are and how it affects their POV. Even if they were never exposed to the culture, just having a desire to learn is enough IMO. Depending on the situations, I think the rules change a bit when dealing with other people.
For example, I would find it wrong if someone who looks and is culturally white claimed to have the same experiances of someone who is more visibly EA, no matter what their exact make-up was. I would also find it wrong if a very white looking person who was 1/8 tried to claim a scholarship that had been set aside for a visible minority. Let's face it, no matter what your exact percentages are, looks are a big part of it. I look pretty white enough, and I always check "white" when there is a possiblity that AA would be used; I usually don't have the problems with people judging me that make AA needed so why would I take it away from someone who might truely benefit from it?
Another big thing for me is motivation. If you have none of the culture or have spent little time learning about it and you just want to claim a little exocticness to your identity, then you're just objectifying the very people you share background with. Besides, it really shows how non-EA someone is if they see it as "cool"... white people usually don't know what it's like to be a minority and usually don't understand just how different it is. Besides, they'll really end up coming across like a wannabe.
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Post by PerzanKitCat86205 on Jun 17, 2008 20:19:02 GMT -5
in my experience, people that are 1/2 or 1/4 asian are considered mixes, whereas people that are 1/8 asian are regarded as just white or whatever their non-asian background may be. does only having 1/8 asian blood really make you less connected to your own family and less connected to your asian heritage? personally, i think of 1/8 asians as mixed. what do you guys think? What is How much of any race does someone have to have for you to personally consider them multiracial? In the past year I have been learning things about my heritage I never knew. I always thought I was 100% white bread, but it turns out I have some Asian heritage (a great grandparent). Am I EA by definition? Or not? How much before you're EA? 1/16? 1/8? 1/4? Only 1/2? I worry I am maybe just feeling like I want to know where I come from. I think some people in the US who had grandparents immigrate to the US (especially Irish/Italian/Polish) grow up without being taught much about their heritage because their grandparents tried to just "become 'American'". I hope I am not offending anyone, that's why I ask. The Asian race blends as superior form of Russia in some of the nuts and bolts in ancient time regarding cultural mixing.. Asians -if they act European their whole life- are usually superior. That's about it. The other problem is about your family roots. "I don't know what the English do... " If you don't have that other culture, usually it just means culturally you don't have it. It's generally a downset, unless you just mean you aren't European enough, still.
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