The Game by Neil Strauss

[thekrez]

Can I ask who else has read this? What were your thoughts?

I finished it a couple of weeks ago and then went out and actually tried some of the stuff it said.

And sweet holy jesus some of it actually works.

Anyone?

[isalee]

I read it some time last year....
The funny thing was some guy on myspace tried to use it on me - and he was stupid enough to use the same lines word for word. I just replied saying - "cool stuff. and you're going to tell me I have a c-shaped smile next aren't you?

I hated the idea actually. Although it apparently gave the most unlikely guys game and more confidence, the tactics are disrespectful to women. It's embarrassing how many women fell for it and how well superficial small talk works. I felt sorry for the men though - they stifle their own individuality by trying to be something their not and by remembering moves rather than them coming naturally.

I still can't quite see how those tactics would work for a really unattractive man though..

[thekrez]

isalee said:

I read it some time last year....
The funny thing was some guy on myspace tried to use it on me - and he was stupid enough to use the same lines word for word. I just replied saying - "cool stuff. and you're going to tell me I have a c-shaped smile next aren't you?

I hated the idea actually. Although it apparently gave the most unlikely guys game and more confidence, the tactics are disrespectful to women. It's embarrassing how many women fell for it and how well superficial small talk works. I felt sorry for the men though - they stifle their own individuality by trying to be something their not and by remembering moves rather than them coming naturally.

I still can't quite see how those tactics would work for a really unattractive man though..

Heh funny how he tried the same lines :-)

Still though it was absolutely amazing. For the record I was trying it out of curiosity to see if it works, I dont think it can be a long term thing because as the book says you start to lose respect for women and I certainly wouldnt.

But for the majority of guys who might not be the best looking thing to grace this planet, it gives a way to approach women that you would otherwise never do in a million years.

I mean how many times do you want to start a conversation with some gorgeous girl with something other than "so uh, what do you do for work?" Especially for the prettier ones, how many guys have tried to start a conversation exactly like that. You want to stand out and be remembered, not be one of the teeming masses.

And the sad fact is unless you try this stuff most girls arent willing to look into a guy's individuality. Unless you pique their interest with something other than a cheesy pickup line you will not get anywhere.

It makes a very coherent point that women spend years developing social skills, learning body language, how every word can have a subtle nuance and the social implications of it. While boys are out beating each other up and making fart jokes girls are spending their time doing this, and they are very good at it.

All this book teaches you is ways to leverage that skill.

And I wouldnt have believed it if i didnt see it with my own two eyes.

[mukashi]

Using those kind of tricks is like having a fake résumé. It may get you the job, but then you actually have to be able to do the work. No book can help you then.

[chinesejewfool]

I've noticed that having a nice job, a nice car, and pad will do you wonders in terms of game. I'd rather do that.

I've read up on the game stuff though, and it's pretty interesting, but I just feel so fake when I try it.

[peachluck]

I own the book but have only read a couple of chapters.

If a guy used to many negs on me I would be put off and not be able to be picked up this haha

[straylight]

Sometimes I accidentally neg people.

[helles]

I've seen the Game in action (not on me, but a frd was trying it out) - it made me LOL. But it gets the girls chatting to the guys and is an interesting convo starter as apposed to the usual crap.

[ChickenSoda]

This whole pickup artist scene has had the effect of causing girls that I legitimately dislike to think that I'm "negging" them.

[straylight]

Heh. Kind of what I was getting at. Some people give themselves too much credit. Even when they're not getting credit.

[nealtse]

It'll work on low self esteem club rats. But anything is better then being a wall flower. I'd say do it to give yourself a kickstart then drop it before it makes you think asking girls opinion is a good thing.


I kid.


Mostly.

[naix]

The game is good, but that is more for leisure reading. Read 'The rules of the game.' It's like a manual version of the game, and it is pretty brilliant.

[Ganbare!]

I don't get what is so complicated about seduction, I'm not exactly a pickup artist as being EA in the West doesn't play in our favor but I never had too much trouble picking up girls in bars or anywhere for that matter. I might sound conservative but I don't think books dealing with relationships are necessary, I'm the type of guy who over-intellectualize entertainment and social matters but when it comes to relationship I'm simple and spontaneous. People are not dumb, they make the difference between authentic individuals and the calculating ones, that's probably why I have no trouble dating or befriending people of diverse social or ethnic backgrounds.

Two years ago, I was waiting for the last train to Toronto when a girl with an Austrian flag on her backpack sat next to me, I found her cute so I took the opportunity to hit on her telling her I had visited Austria and was from Europe myself. Anyways so we talked for a while until I noticed both my wallet and ticket had disappeared, we searched around with no luck, having no money to buy a new one I started thinking of returning home and come back to the station the next morning which would mean I'd miss my friend's birthday bash. Despite knowing me for less than an hour the girl offered to lend me the money to buy a new ticket which I gladly accepted, we exchanged phone numbers to pay her back, it ended up as a date. My experience is that being yourself makes you charming, pulling off fake stunts and lines from books doesn't.

[admin]

May 24, 2010 2:54:01 GMT -5 Ganbare! said:

Two years ago, I was waiting for the last train to Toronto when a girl with an Austrian flag on her backpack sat next to me, I found her cute so I took the opportunity to hit on her telling her I had visited Austria and was from Europe myself. Anyways so we talked for a while until I noticed both my wallet and ticket had disappeared, we searched around with no luck, having no money to buy a new one I started thinking of returning home and come back to the station the next morning which would mean I'd miss my friend's birthday bash. Despite knowing me for less than an hour the girl offered to lend me the money to buy a new ticket which I gladly accepted, we exchanged phone numbers to pay her back, it ended up as a date. My experience is that being yourself makes you charming, pulling off fake stunts and lines from books doesn't.

Sigh. You're such a rookie.

There's only ONE way to pick up and Austrian girl...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqVzRD_nWLQ

[Ganbare!]

You reminded me why I haven't watched Western movies for years... Just so you know Austrians are reknown to be the world's most promiscous people.