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Post by Altan on Apr 25, 2008 1:09:03 GMT -5
Pretty interesting what is the ideals of Eurasians with both EA parents? Do they have to come up with their own idenities? Or do the parents teach them EA idenity from their perspectives? And what were their parents perspectives? I have some cousins and I wonder without racial knowledge what should become of their offsprings future? Slaves or Conquerors?
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Post by Vestirse on Apr 25, 2008 1:43:18 GMT -5
I am Chinese Jamaican first, Asian American second and always mixed. Perhaps I'm not the best person to ask about identity though as I grew up within a culture that was well-defined within my own family structure/extended community and almost unknown to everyone else as I grew up in Miami. That seems to be a "unique" experience.
I grew up in a somewhat colorblind home. My parents never really mentioned race. We were just Jamaicans or Chinese Jamaicans and that signified our culture (Chinese customs with Jamaican twist) and language (Patois). It was only in elementary school that it became apparent that I was Asian-American and that I was "different". It wasn't until later on in my early teens that I started considering myself "mixed" after I started to get questions from others questioning my ethnicity. It was during that time period my parents told me we were mixed. I had always assumed we were Chinese. So I guess "mixed" is my own personal label for myself.
I have don't really understand the last part of your post. But that's ok, because I have a feeling I don't want to.
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Post by Altan on Apr 25, 2008 2:07:14 GMT -5
Ilgence ...I met a lot of Cuban Chinese in NYC...but I know of Chinese Jamaican in Jamaica but it's such a distant world from here in the USA. Spent alot of time in Florida...especially with the Slavic Eastern Europe bunches....so you existing in Miami? I loved Miami and the Carribbean. I wish I was there I'd be up on my game. The last sentence was are you on the top of the pile or on the bottom...a Caribbean question ...right to the point.
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Post by Vestirse on Apr 25, 2008 2:19:23 GMT -5
Well if you really want to get into social realities, Chinese-Jamaicans are kind off at the top in Jamaica (and hated for it). Asian-Americans are supposed to be the model minority so I'd say I'm close to the top here in America too in terms of minorities, but like most minorities I will quite never belong.
I don't think anyone gets to choose to be a conquerer or a slave. You have to be in the right (or wrong depending on how you look at it) "place" at the right time. If there is a choice, only one person has it - the conquerer. The conquerer has the choice not to be a conquerer. The social role in life of your cousins' offspring will likely depend on their residence and phenotype.
Or where you asking something else ? Because I really don't understand what a Caribbean question is and I definitely grew up in the Jamaican community.
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Post by Altan on Apr 25, 2008 2:46:27 GMT -5
Asian American here in America is more on the Slave side. Not really in control of their destiny but they like to think they are. They do their job for whoever and collect a paycheck forom whoever. And live uneventful lives wherever doing nothing forever until Uncle Sam catches them selling secrets whereeeeever. The lifecycle of an Asian American. Predictable and uneventful and again predictable wherever.
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Post by Vestirse on Apr 25, 2008 10:28:32 GMT -5
Um, ok. You do realize I said top as it related to being a minority. But the paranoia hasn't quite seeped in yet.
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Post by betahat on Apr 26, 2008 2:48:33 GMT -5
People are pretty good at enslaving each other regardless of race. Some of the most notorious slumlords in the Bay Area are Indian, and one of the worst and most exploitative restaurant owners is a self-made millionaire immigrant who worked his way up and is now squeezing every penny out of the next generation of migrants. In fact, my guess is that a lot of the worse exploitation of Asians that goes on in the US is carried out by older, more established generations of Asian migrants against the newcomers.
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Post by Phil on Apr 26, 2008 16:29:24 GMT -5
Not having Mixed parents myself, I've always been excited to be a Mixed parent. However as much as I'd like to see the next generation have a strong Mixed identity, it has to come naturally. I might just turn my kids into mixed fanatics , kinda like the kids that grow up ultra christian and listen to only Christ Rock.
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