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Post by Subuatai on Dec 20, 2008 12:43:32 GMT -5
Aye, what can old wolves do when fangs fall out? Might as well make the best of your fangs while you're still young, worry about stuff like this later. As in the end, we're all dead people walking anyway.
And the funeral, heh I'd rather be buried in the open for nature to feast on, though no one wants me to have that kind of funeral for some strange reason =/ Want me to have my corpse cleaned and defiled then shockingly put on public display then buried 6 feet under the earth in a coffin.
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Post by Subuatai on Dec 20, 2008 13:39:56 GMT -5
No, they'll still be supporting you through their taxes
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Post by avax on Dec 20, 2008 16:21:31 GMT -5
I'd rather kill myself before that stage. It's funny how most governments oppose euthanasia. I think it has little to do with morality or compassion, and everything to do with the idea that the government OWNS you, including your life! This thread seems like a spoof off my Right to Die one. I don't disagree with your sentiment but you are more than welcome to kill yourself by ODing, suffocation, starvation, for example. I see it more as a disjunction between a nation's Charter of Rights and Freedoms or Constitution, and its Criminal Code. The freedom to die has not been reconciled with notions of homicide in the event that euthanasia becomes commonplace or taken forgranted. I also see it as going against the Hippocratic Oath - something ingrained in the medical field. Blaming the government for being the big baddie is too easy. I might prefer to die in my vomit if it means a chance of not being killed before my time and having my murder covered up easily by a law that permits medically assisted suicide. I might choose to kill my own family members if they wish it than change the law and implicate a whole culture that reveres and protects life. I do vouch for autonomy - within limits. What is this war between government and the individual? Changing the law to suit the needs of a small population seems excessive, but not to address such needs may be deemed neglectful... to some, even un-Constitutional. I don't believe every war should be won. Most opposition should only maintain the balance of a nation that attempts to value democracy. The irony is that my thesis was about legislating euthanasia, and I defended it and they bought it. Why I picked such a thing to defend is beyond me - I'll chalk it up to the bleeding heart syndrome and maybe some part of me that believed I was doing the right thing even though the day I finished I had serious doubts. It was all an act. When it came down to watching people die in the hospice/seniors' care center (where I worked at the time) I started to rethink. I saw people reduced to vegetables in bed, many in wheelchairs, who still wanted to live. Some were a product of old age and others had more severe illnesses or lapses in memory/mental capacity. There were also other times death came so quickly, there was no choice to live.
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Post by Subuatai on Dec 20, 2008 16:49:23 GMT -5
^ Yes, this is something that makes me wonder about my own people's ancient culture where to die in battle or on a hunt (for men) or to die during childbirth (for women) was considered better then to die of old age.
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quiapo
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Post by quiapo on Dec 20, 2008 18:58:04 GMT -5
If a creature responds to light and warmth, to food and touch, but is unable to reason or communicate, should it no longer live? We are loking at end stage dementia here.
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Post by cinnamoroll on Dec 21, 2008 5:26:36 GMT -5
I know most of us are below 30-40, but have you spared a thought about your future as a senior citizen? I think the idea of wasting away in a retirement home is horrible. Chances are it's going to be the place where you die. Do you want to die in a second-hand bed after sh*tting yourself and having a heart attack? I'd rather kill myself before that stage. It's funny how most governments oppose euthanasia. I think it has little to do with morality or compassion, and everything to do with the idea that the government OWNS you, including your life! I'd rather not think about it, and don't recommend dwelling on this for too long to anybody. Last time I did, I had a nervous breakdown which lasted for months. Carpe Diem.
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