conorsoccr23
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Post by conorsoccr23 on Jun 1, 2010 10:23:35 GMT -5
hookers r people to
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Post by betahat on Jun 3, 2010 18:41:16 GMT -5
I once had a 2 hour long conversation with a Vegas stripper in a strip club. It's always hard to tell when they are just being nice to someone to get more money and when they're just genuinely bored or feel like chatting instead of giving lapdances. No money changed hands - I really don't belong in strip clubs as I'm too stingy - which is probably why we were chatting in the first place, as I just sat there waving off all the girls selling lapdances. I get the feeling she was kind of in to me, though she was definitely not my type. Had what I would think of as a typical "good" stripper lifestyle - had kind, permissive parents who partied a lot (including with her), not a great student in school and also a bit lazy, choosing stripping as a relatively easy route to money. I remember talking a lot about US foreign policy at the time as the US had just invaded Iraq and she was a big Bush supporter (yes, my friends made fun of me for this). She denied doing hard drugs but said a lot of the girls at the club did. This was a pretty classy joint, so I doubt the girls who worked there are typical of the stripping industry, and they made good money, so they probably are similar to (and some of them no doubt overlapping) with high class escorts.
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Post by milkman's baby on Jun 3, 2010 21:20:01 GMT -5
I had a friend who was not a stripper but a cocktail waitress (the dress they had her wear was so short that she might as well have been a stripper) at Larry Flynt's Hustler Club. She became good friend with all the strippers. I never met any of them, but apparently there are some 30 some year old real estate agents who just do it on the side for fun. But the majority of them, of course, are still whitetrash young single mothers needing to pay the bill. My guess is that the strippers that dominate the "classy" clubs or the really ritzy ones in Palm Beach are probably aspiring models and dancers that see stripping more as "a form of art." Such a poetic thought but they'll probably never make it to Broadway or the American Ballet Theatre.
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Post by Ganbare! on Jun 3, 2010 23:34:42 GMT -5
Even if many of my friends do, I've surprisingly never been to a strip club as I find these places grotesque but if I ever went to one the last thing I would be doing is talking about feelings or politics, my hands would be too busy putting bills in appropriate places. I respect women far too much to watch them indulge themselves in degrading things like lapdancing, what happens in the bedroom is another story though. I guess being a male growing up around females made me more of a gentleman.
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palavore
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Post by palavore on Jun 4, 2010 9:20:14 GMT -5
Even if many of my friends do, I've surprisingly never been to a strip club as I find these places grotesque... They do Couples Night if you're embarrassed about going by yourself. Man, that brings back memories... I've seen newly weds on stage. The wife (in her wedding dress) got a lap dance on stage then the bridesmaids got up and stripped for the audience. O Canada! But I do know girls that would go to strip clubs (to watch)--some of them are lesbians though. That was their empowering ladies night out. Today's feminists... I also know guys that would look for certain strip clubs just to laugh at fat chicks trying to pole dance--but I wasn't too keen on getting thrown out or indulging in their adolescent humor. Today's men... I was dragged into a strip club on my 21st birthday. Before that, I had reservations entering a Hooters. Now, I could eat hot chicken wings at a lesbian bondage club and not break a sweat. I kid, strip clubs aren't my thing.
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Post by Ganbare! on Jun 4, 2010 10:03:20 GMT -5
^99,9% chance they are future Canadian cougars recognizable by their Ottawa Senators hockey keychain.
Third-wave feminists almost support porn more than us!
loled at your last statement..
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Post by betahat on Jun 4, 2010 15:17:07 GMT -5
I heard that one of my friends was at a downmarket strip club in Nova Scotia and threw change on the stage hitting the stripper right in the hooha. The downside of being cheap and living in a country where one and two dollar denominations are in the form of coins!
My feeling with strip clubs is that I pay to sit there and watch the stripping on stage, so why do you have to hassle me with all the $30 a song lapdances? Can't I just drink my eight dollar beer in peace and tip 5-10 dollars per dancer on the stage? I guess I'm a veteran since I've been to 3 different strip clubs in Vegas, Toronto, and Halifax, and even saw a live sex show in Amsterdam. Once in Vegas there was a really cute EA stripper, half-Korean I think, who immediately recognized me as one too. It's been a while though - I haven't gone since getting married two years ago...
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palavore
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I put my pants on just like the rest of you -- one leg at a time. Except, once my pants are on, I make gold posts.
Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
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Post by palavore on Jun 6, 2010 8:37:17 GMT -5
About half the strippers Dr. Bernadette Barton interviewed identified themselves as lesbian or bisexual. One explanation is that in the process of objectifying women in media and entertainment, men have become objectified themselves--that is, are unavailable for intimate relationships. This might explain why a growing number of girls are identifying themselves as lesbian or bisexual (15%) compared to boys (5%). I'm reminded of this quote: Men learn love the women they are sexually attracted to. Women to learn to become sexually attracted to the men they love.
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Post by Ganbare! on Jun 6, 2010 21:41:06 GMT -5
^I don't see the link between objectification and sexual orientation, if there was one, more men would be homesexual or bisexual for a long time. For having spent quality time with drunk gals recently I've seen many strange behaviors in which apparently straight girls would touch each other's breasts, kiss etc. The truth is that women are naturally more attracted to other females than men are to other males despite the gay brainwashing in the media, I was told it was a normal step in their early sexual life but maybe female members could ascertain or not?
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Post by betahat on Jun 7, 2010 2:43:48 GMT -5
^The truth is that women are naturally more attracted to other females than men are to other males despite the gay brainwashing in the media ? Not sure what you're talking about. It seems like whenever "gay" is mentioned in the media it's always gay men - lesbians get much less attention, but probably proportional to their numbers. How much of this is due to biology vs. culture is pretty hard to say.
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Post by Ganbare! on Jun 7, 2010 2:52:32 GMT -5
^They get more positive coverage because a lot of gay males have influential positions in media and entertainment, when it's negative coverage it's because they received discrimination or violence by other males thus why lesbians have little exposure despite the superior number of them. I haven't said a thing about nurture or nature it's just casual evidence from observing and speaking about the issue with many female friends. That said only a woman could corroborate with certainty.
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Post by betahat on Jun 7, 2010 14:46:39 GMT -5
^thus why lesbians have little exposure despite the superior number of them.
I thought that there were more self-identified homosexual men than women (though of course all women have bisexual tendencies and want to be in an mff threeway). At least in the US you have several high-profile lesbians - Ellen and Rosie and Rachel Maddow and Anne Heche - and several high-profile women who confess to bisexual tendencies (Anna Paquin most recently, but there's a very long list) but don't really have any high-profile gay men in entertainment or media - most of them are behind the scenes guys like David Geffen, Rob Marshall, Roland Emmerich,. All of our jokes are about how guys like Tom Cruise are really gay but have to stay in the closet. I didn't even know that Seth Green was gay until I checked today (maybe his Entourage character threw me off).
I'm afraid my assessment of media and entertainment culture in the US is the exact opposite of yours, with bisexuality or lesbianism relatively ok but most homosexuals either in the closet or very quiet about it (think Kevin Spacey, maybe the most famous "openly closeted" gay male, or Anderson Cooper - there isn't much doubt about their sexuality but they are EXTREMELY subtle about it.)
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Szymon Von Zalyn
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Post by Szymon Von Zalyn on Aug 11, 2010 4:56:51 GMT -5
I read in the news that a bunch of strippers in the USA protested in front of a church whose members had been protesting in front of their strip club for the last four years!
Makes a change!
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Post by penguinopolipitese on Oct 25, 2010 3:48:22 GMT -5
^didn't happen to get the address of the church by any chance?
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Szymon Von Zalyn
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Post by Szymon Von Zalyn on Oct 30, 2010 9:02:28 GMT -5
^didn't happen to get the address of the church by any chance? I'm afraid not!
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