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Post by chinesejewfool on Jun 19, 2007 18:01:15 GMT -5
Democrats can be just as bad as Republicans
they are often elitists who "claim" to be for helping the poor but their policy says otherwise. Anti-global warming will put thousands out of work. Raising electricty rates to help pay for research will prevent poor people from cooling their homes.
There is no party, both are pathetic. I'll vote democrat this election because we need to get out of Iraq which is starting to turn into Vietnam 2. Only reason there doesn't seem to be as many troop casualties is because of modern medicine. You still have thousands of severely injured troops.
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Post by 0 on Jun 19, 2007 20:05:22 GMT -5
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Post by Ajeno on Jun 19, 2007 20:05:58 GMT -5
@ea Observer - I agree with everything you said except for your take on Barack hussein Obama.I dont think much is known about him and you should maybe take a look at some of the questionable things him and his wife have done if you havent already.Alot of people are for him on the strength of his skin and to me thats just weak.Hilary has more balls than him and i mean that in a good way ;D
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Al gore is just a another douche who claims to be an authority on everything and ends up getting proved wrong.Hes just plain annoying as f*ck to me but thats just my opinion.
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Post by dapper on Jun 20, 2007 9:04:30 GMT -5
For sure, and anyway Al Gore is a non-issue, a nobody for 2008 so he no longer needs to be discussed. Just like John McCain--he's done. John Edwards is very near that status as well.
I've not bothered to dig deeply into the Obama craze yet, but the one thing I have noticed on the negative side is that he has blamed "his staff" numerous times already when he makes mistakes and gaffes. And he blamed being tired for his blunderous mistake when he thought some midwestern tornado storm killed 10,000 people when the body count was more like 10 or 12 individuals. Sort of reminds me of John F Kerry, who once cursed a Secret Service agent after he blamed him for falling whilst skiing b/c, allegedly, he is John F Kerry, he doesn't fall. lol
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Post by dapper on Jun 20, 2007 13:11:53 GMT -5
Oh and I meant to add my thoughts about Bloomberg: yawn.
The guy is a tumbling, tumbling dickweed. Well, maybe not but I felt the need to refrence Pat Bateman again for some reason. Anyway, Bloomberg's name might as well be Boreberg b/c the guy makes his tv likeness, Mr Roper, look like God's gift to charisma.
But I'll gladly see this former-Republican-who-was-before-that-a-former-Democrat-and-now-Independent flush half a billion down the toilet.
Also, word is the always running Republican assist giver Nader is once again considering an 08 bid for the Presidency.
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Post by jewbird on Jun 20, 2007 14:03:42 GMT -5
^ I could come up with a million reasons why nearly every GOP candidate is unviable as well. Giuliani, (looks like a vampire) McCain, ("war hero" experience consists of sitting in a Vietcong POW camp = loser) and Romney (member of Satanic cult) all have serious strikes against them that preclude any of them being taken seriously for the highest office in the land.
Republicans know this and that's why they're trying to draft Fred Thompson, someone who makes Bloomberg seem positively Churchillian in comparison while boasting less political experience than Barack Obama.
The only legitimate choices in 2008 are:
A) Democrat
B) Ron Paul
Nuff said.
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Post by chinesejewfool on Jun 20, 2007 23:15:42 GMT -5
Guliani- no experience. Failed to prepare NY from terrorism. Only accomplishment is "crime"...which all he basically did was have cops arrest any "negro" suspicious and give them heavy sentences.
McCain- Voted for the iraq war and still wants to stay there.
Romney- as GiJew said, is part of a cult where men are allowed to have more than one wives.
Gore isn't all that great either though. He first got his fame battling Heavy Metal lyrics and obviously lost. He claimed he invented the internet. And marches around giving global warming lectures without a PHD in the subject.
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Post by jewbird on Jun 21, 2007 5:35:59 GMT -5
Re: Gore, the lyrics thing was really more his wife. He didn't claim to have "invented" the internet. That's a GOP straw-man. What he did do was make sure that the precursor to it got funded when he was in the Senate and he may have played a role in opening it up to the general public. He certainly promoted it heavily when it was just moving outside of the corporate/academia world. I know for a damn fact he did this, because my high school (Monta Vista) was the first in the world to be on the information superhighway and he paid us a visit and even shook my hand.
Likewise, I think he plays a similar role in global warming. No, he didn't "invent" that either and no he doesn't have a PhD, but so what? He's a politician; not an academic. No layman can possibly comprehend all the variables anyway. Hell, the scientists with the PhDs can't comprehend all the variables either. What we do know is that China and India are industrializing rapidly. What we don't know is what the implications for the atmosphere or oil supplies are.
Giving speeches and making documentaries and writing books (remember Earth in the Balance?) about global warming adds to the dialogue in terms of raising public awareness of the subject, which for someone who doesn't even hold office, I dare say he's done a bang-up job of. Environmentalism hasn't been such a big deal as it is now since the 60's.
In fact, I'd say environmentalism is the new Internet. It's getting a lot of investment attention as well. You have to respect the way the man's always at the forefront of new trends like that.
Still, he's not a candidate. Our choices are:
A) Hillary Clinton (psycho who's going to nuke Iran)
B) Barack Obama (engaging speaker, but also a bit of a neophyte in Washington)
C) Ron Paul
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Post by dapper on Jun 21, 2007 8:12:14 GMT -5
You guys have to have more knowledge than making baselessly unsubstantial jabs such as guys looking like vampires and being members of satanic cults. Seriously. But maybe not; I guess that explains why you have your views in the first place, no? Afterall, only entry level mindsets would lead someone to think that any Democrat is the best option for 2008, especially after that very strategy fell flat on its face in 2004, lol.
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Post by cjsdad on Jun 21, 2007 9:08:45 GMT -5
Don't worry, there won't be need for any elections soon enough. www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.htmlI think people sometimes think America's some fallen country, that we were once good and pure but have fallen in recent times. The war in Iraq reminds me of the Spanish-American war. Something blows up, then we rush to war regardless of the circumstances. All America has ever represented to me was a country that had done horrible things to nearly every ethnicity in me. All that said, I'm sure if Bush does try to activate this Homeland Security Presidential Directive he will have a revolution on his hands, and that sounds much better to me than pushing the republicans aside for a few years so they can scheme their evil for another day. "Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights" Bob Marley Well wolf, we will have to agree to disagree on this one. As an amateur historian, I have a very good grasp on the complexities of war. Two sides to every coin. Fact is ever since our ancestors climbed out of the trees or pulled themselves out of the primordial sludge to fill primitive lungs with life sustaining oxygen, we have been dividing ourselves into "tribes", giving an excuse for killing one another. Whether it be over land, money, scarce resources, or whatever, it has gone on for a very, very long time. Sad, to be sure. I must however say that the evils perpetrated on "every ethnicity in you", and I must make the assumption that these would be the Italians and the Japanese, fall on somewhat unsympathetic ears here when specifically applied to recent history. The Axis was defeated, and I can't say I'm really sad about that. Myriad reasons exist for the build-up to WWII. Surely you can see why the Greeks and Abyssinians (Ethiopians) didn't share the vision Italy had for them. Neither did the Koreans, Chinese, Filipinos, and many other Asians share the Japanese vision for the Great East Asia Co-Prosperity sphere, at least as it was formulated by the Empire of Japan. I'm not even going to get in to the mess that is the Nazi vision for Europe, but as the Tripartite pact stipulated, they were "in it together". My point, you may ask? Sure.... Simply this, the USA has plenty of warts, huge blemishes on it's record in dealing with the world and even it's nextdoor neighbors. But in this particular case, I'm glad the "bad guy" in your eyes, the US of A and her Allies, kicked the ass off of your forebears. If this angers or offends you, I understand. But I feel confident in defending America and her Allies' decision to wage war on Japan, Italy, and German and am happy over the outcome. As horrific as war is, in this particular case I believe it was justifiable. |
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Post by chinesejewfool on Jun 21, 2007 11:56:16 GMT -5
I lIKEZ em BuSH
Cuz He lEt eM nEGRoes Drwn inz KUTREENA
En he Kiwl em ARABS TERRIS IN iRakez en KIK EM MEXICANS OWT!
GO REEpublikkansz
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Post by jewbird on Jun 21, 2007 17:03:24 GMT -5
You guys have to have more knowledge than making baselessly unsubstantial jabs such as guys looking like vampires and being members of satanic cults. Seriously. You know why Giuliani looks like a vampire? Because he IS a vampire! Sucking the life blood out of 9/11 long after there's any left to suck. Seriously. What else does "America's mayor" got going for him? And no God-fearing Christian can possibly support a Mormon. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints... It's David Koresh! Oh I have more knowledge. And that's why I can't take any of the red-wing front-runners seriously. I'm simply putting things in terms their would-be backers can understand and appreciate since concepts like addition and subtraction baffle them to no end. I believe I said a Democrat was better than any GOP candidate except for Ron Paul. Speaking of 2004, the conversation is not complete without mentioning Ohio and Diebold. However it appears the problem was remedied in 2006. The American people are onto them. The only question is whether the GOP will get its own house in order in time to field a viable candidate for president or at the very least, allow ideas to be heard in its debates. |
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Post by dapper on Jun 22, 2007 8:13:39 GMT -5
Duck.
Duck.
Wrong. Though my comments on this specific point were directed at CJFail, your beliefs here are contradicted by your earlier statements, wherein you concluded with Hillary first, Obama second, Paul third.
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Post by jewbird on Jun 22, 2007 19:31:53 GMT -5
Wrong why?
There's nothing contradictory about listing different viable options. They're not necessarily in order of preference.
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Post by avax on Jun 25, 2007 14:58:00 GMT -5
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