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Post by cm on Feb 6, 2008 21:29:48 GMT -5
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Post by long on Feb 7, 2008 0:24:29 GMT -5
^ Is it really that sad? Is it not fair to think that Bill will influence Hillary, and that Hillary influenced Bill during his presidency? That's what the haters say when it suits their interests.... Would it be more or less sad if Hillary happened to be Latino and they were simply voting for her because of her race? - I'll go with much more sad. White liberals have revealed their hypocrisy to the entire world by supporting a white presidential nominee. When it comes to the crunch, white liberals will never vote for a non-white, even if he is more ideologically-aligned to their beliefs by supporting inter-racial relationships and world peace. Honestly, where'd you get this idea.
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Post by Ajeno on Feb 7, 2008 7:04:34 GMT -5
Hillarys not even qualified to be senator in my state let alone a president. She is just as dumb and useless as her husband is/was. Not only is she too dumb and arrogant to admit voting to invade Iraq was a terrible idea but now she gave the idiot who got us there the authority to do whatever he wants with Iran. But she'll continue riding the coattails of her disgraceful husband whos presidency was a sham and he'll continue using her as a puppet to save his legacy because he of course doesnt have one. In the end the sheeple will keep eating up their lies.
Im not an Obama supporter but he is 10x more inteligent than she is or will ever be. Its also a shame that Mike Gravel wasnt taken more seriously. What that man did with the Pentagon Papers is legendary.
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Post by long on Feb 7, 2008 7:16:08 GMT -5
Do you believe that your post above could be persuasive to anyone that didn't already agree with you?
Do you believe yourself to be more intelligent than Hillary or Bill?
Do you believe yourself to be less arrogant?
If so, how would you support these arguments?
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Post by Ajeno on Feb 7, 2008 10:38:47 GMT -5
Do you believe that your post above could be persuasive to anyone that didn't already agree with you? It has worked plenty of times in real life and Im sure the people who already agree with it find it entertaining,so. Thats hard to answer because it depends on what you mean by intelligence. I do feel that they are both lowlives but they do play their game very well i must admit. How else could you mislead everyone into beliving you were a great president or a woman of integrity even after you voted for an illegal war that has killed and wounded thousands and then voted again to give the moron responsible for it the authority to strike another country? In a way they are like the used car salesmen of politics. No im really cocky sometimes to be honest but i feel like im telling the truth. If any of the things ive said are new to you or whoever than thats not my problem. Go look into it.
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Post by cm on Feb 7, 2008 14:58:00 GMT -5
^Unfortunately, you keep saying Bill was bad, yet provide ZERO evidence whatsoever. So essentially everything you said is just typed thought without any factual basis supporting it.
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Post by cm on Feb 7, 2008 15:01:47 GMT -5
My Hispanic friend told me that if Bill Clinton died tomorrow or before the elections, Hillary would lose a lot of her Hispanic base either they won't bother to vote or consider the other candidates. This is his theory. He's one of those Hispanics who mostly hangs out with other Hispanics. He says every hispano he knows is voting for Bill not Hillary. If this is true, it's very sad. When you vote for a president in the US, you are looking at the people they are going to surround them with. People didn't vote for Bush because he was Bush. They voted for him because of the Neo-Conservative think tank that he followed. People support Hilary because of those around her. It's not uncommong. People like her husband, Albright, etc.
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Post by Ajeno on Feb 7, 2008 15:32:18 GMT -5
^Unfortunately, you keep saying Bill was bad, yet provide ZERO evidence whatsoever. So essentially everything you said is just typed thought without any factual basis supporting it. Already have dozens of times, youre just living in a socialist dreamland which was apparent to me when you said the collapsing of social security and overall entitlement system is a myth. I like how you couldnt address how she voted for the war and then for the authorization on Iran..You make it too easy for me.
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Post by cm on Feb 8, 2008 1:24:56 GMT -5
^Unfortunately, you keep saying Bill was bad, yet provide ZERO evidence whatsoever. So essentially everything you said is just typed thought without any factual basis supporting it. Already have dozens of times, youre just living in a socialist dreamland which was apparent to me when you said the collapsing of social security and overall entitlement system is a myth. I like how you couldnt address how she voted for the war and then for the authorization on Iran..You make it too easy for me. I have addressed her voting for the war. Politics is a give and take game. Her voting no would ruin any future chance of her becoming president for she would be labeled 'weak on terror'. It's called political survival. At the same time, I have no problem with us being tough with Iran. We don't need nuclear weapons there. By the way, socialist nightmares of Canada and the European Union are doing fine. The EU is strong, while the Canadian dollar continues to rise. Actually, EVERY INDUSTRIALIZED NATION IN THE WORLD HAS SOCIAL PROGRAMS. Reverting back to a pure free market would make the US a third world country.
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Post by Ajeno on Feb 8, 2008 12:19:10 GMT -5
She might be a bonehead but she knows what shes doing. You defending her bad politics just goes to show the extent of which theyve been able to fool people i guess.
Nothing wrong with Social programs but when you have hacks like the Clintons running things then eh. Didnt Clinton say the era of big government is over? Wow good job Bill. The U.S economy is slowly collapsing while the dollar loses value and now the dollar is about equal to canadian currency so i wouldnt go bringing Canada up as a MAJOR success.
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Post by cm on Feb 10, 2008 11:50:26 GMT -5
The US economy would be fine right now if Bush didn't decide to pass every bill put in front of his face.
If you look at the US economy at the MOMENT, we are doing well. We are still on top in technology, and research. The problem is the trend that we are headed. The country is in a recession which is natural in our system, but the problem is the debt.
And again, Clinton balanced the budget and that wasn't a problem at all when he was in office. I'd happily take our current economic situation with Clinton at office balancing the budget.
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Post by EA Observer on Feb 13, 2008 13:38:21 GMT -5
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Post by byanychance on Feb 17, 2008 12:42:51 GMT -5
I don't think people should vote for the next president of the United States based on this...lol. Obama should win. It could possibly end a lot of the racial hatred that apparently is still pravelent over in the usa. Plus Blacks as a whole have had to put up with a lot more in the U.S rather then somebody like hilary clinton so....yeh. But either way will be a first: the first overall female president or the first overall African American president Theres nothing that will [unfortunately] singlehandedly dimolish the racist mindset of many white supremacist Americans. Despite of Obama being just as black as he is white, the one drop rule is still prevalent.
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Post by byanychance on Feb 17, 2008 13:20:10 GMT -5
I do think Hillary would make a great vice president though... and nothing would put more fear into those redneck republicans then Hillary taking over, should anything happen to Obama. LOL awesome ;D
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Post by SecretAsianMan on Mar 5, 2008 23:55:17 GMT -5
*Disclaimer*: I do not endorse Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama for the Democratic nomination. (Happy, JC?) Still, the Times (U.K.) ran an amusing piece on Obama (I want to hear an Obama-supporter's, or anyone else's for that matter, reasoned response to this one): Obama's Detestable Dirty Tricks
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