Maverick
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Post by Maverick on Jun 22, 2009 3:23:17 GMT -5
Hey Mav, how many flight hours have you logged so far? Where are you in your PFT? I did my x-country solo last weekend! I'm not sure what the military analog to that is. ;D Roughly 40 hours.... I've been doing instrument ground school for just about a month now (want to gouge my eyes out everyday). I have 9 simulator flights, then back to flying. Excuse my ignorance PFT? Grats on the solo! I'm planning on doing a cross country from florida back home to vegas.
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Post by Groink on Jun 22, 2009 11:00:52 GMT -5
Hey Mav, how many flight hours have you logged so far? Where are you in your PFT? I did my x-country solo last weekend! I'm not sure what the military analog to that is. ;D Roughly 40 hours.... I've been doing instrument ground school for just about a month now (want to gouge my eyes out everyday). I have 9 simulator flights, then back to flying. Excuse my ignorance PFT? Grats on the solo! I'm planning on doing a cross country from florida back home to vegas. I'm around 40, too. Although it's taken me MONTHS to do it. My buddy is doing doing IFR training, too. It looks waaay complicated. Doing VFR they teach you not to fixate on the instruments, then in IFR it's all LOOK AT YOUR INSTRUMENTS! Hah! When you say cross country, you literally mean cross country, don't you? ;D Mine was only about 60 miles. I have another cross country solo due, which will be a three leg solo. PFT: Primary flight training. Sorry, I was playing fast and loose with the TLAs.
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Post by Shock on Jun 22, 2009 14:00:51 GMT -5
Though we all want peace, it will never happen. Whether you like it or not, countries will always need a standing military. War sucks, end of story. I think to understand it. "Countries need to fight" which is perfectly natural with human species. That's why only few "abnormal" humans understand the true importance of peace.
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Post by Maverick on Jun 22, 2009 15:00:36 GMT -5
Roughly 40 hours.... I've been doing instrument ground school for just about a month now (want to gouge my eyes out everyday). I have 9 simulator flights, then back to flying. Excuse my ignorance PFT? Grats on the solo! I'm planning on doing a cross country from florida back home to vegas. I'm around 40, too. Although it's taken me MONTHS to do it. My buddy is doing doing IFR training, too. It looks waaay complicated. Doing VFR they teach you not to fixate on the instruments, then in IFR it's all LOOK AT YOUR INSTRUMENTS! Hah! When you say cross country, you literally mean cross country, don't you? ;D Mine was only about 60 miles. I have another cross country solo due, which will be a three leg solo. PFT: Primary flight training. Sorry, I was playing fast and loose with the TLAs. Whether its 60 miles or 600 miles it's still a great time. It's such an awesome feeling being in the plane by yourself. I will have 15 instrument flights in a few weeks and that cross country (will rack up around 2 hours per flight). Each flight should be around 125-200 miles. When flight school is over, I should have around 150-175 hours. Instrument training is quite complicated at first, but you slowly start to get the hang of things. And once you get the hang of things, you switch to a new aircraft or learn new/different techniques. Ohhhhhhh the enjoyment of flight school. I don't mind it, since I'm not paying for it. We usually go through about 900 lbs of JP-8 fuel. It costs roughly $20,000 per flight. Groink, I thank you for paying for my fuel and training!
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Post by Maverick on Jun 22, 2009 15:01:05 GMT -5
Though we all want peace, it will never happen. Whether you like it or not, countries will always need a standing military. War sucks, end of story. I think to understand it. "Countries need to fight" which is perfectly natural with human species. That's why only few "abnormal" humans understand the true importance of peace. I totally agree....
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Post by Groink on Jun 23, 2009 11:47:47 GMT -5
I don't mind it, since I'm not paying for it. We usually go through about 900 lbs of JP-8 fuel. It costs roughly $20,000 per flight. Groink, I thank you for paying for my fuel and training! You're welcome, you [lucky] bastard!
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Post by Subuatai on Jun 23, 2009 16:53:23 GMT -5
It's sad eh? As much I as want peace in the world, this saying sums up everything quite well. "If you want peace, prepare for war"
Mongolian troops participated in Iraq/Afghanistan for the sole purpose of combat experience.
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Post by cm on Jun 23, 2009 21:32:01 GMT -5
I have no problem with the military, aside from the asshole recruiters who go into ghettos throughout America, misleading impressionable youth about serving for the military.
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Post by mrxcloudyxloc on Jun 24, 2009 11:49:43 GMT -5
I have no problem with the military, aside from the asshole recruiters who go into ghettos throughout America, misleading impressionable youth about serving for the military. They don't go into the ghettoes, they just come to our schools. But seriously, that's something you gotta kind of look out for yourself for. Like before I signed anything I read everything and whatever the recruiter promised me I asked him to point out where in the contract that was specified. If you're going to hand your life over to somebody for a minimum of 8 years (4 active, 4 inactive) then you better damn well read the fine print. All I'm doing is collecting a check, and making the Air Force do as much as it can for me til I'm out, you can't really blame anybody else if you allow yourself to get suckered and then don't make the best of your situation. Now as far as the politicians who pull our strings, yeah got a few problems with them.. but it is what it is.
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Post by Paddy on Jun 24, 2009 17:39:42 GMT -5
My old man was a British Army doctor. Never saw active duty. They wanted to send him to Belfast towards the end of his career. Being a naturalised Irishman (Republic), he decided to quit!
I seriously considered joining the forces back in the day, but decided that I didn't ever want to find myself in the situation where I might have to kill someone to save my own skins.
Inquired last year about joining up. Told me I'm too old!! Screw them if they don't want one of the fittest 32 year olds they are likely to meet with all the skills they could want from a fresh recruit.
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Post by Uncle Hank on Jul 9, 2009 14:45:17 GMT -5
I just found out the other day one of my classmates from college has died. Obituary says he did 2 tours in Iraq, but was at Camp Pendleton. I guess he wasn't KIA, but it doesn't really say how. Sad thing is I don't remember him. I think he just did a year with our class then transferred out, or probably left for academic reasons. We had a lot of those.
*I went to a very small tight-knit school where everyone knew each other in case you think I'm being weird. Within each class it was a little more than just knowing a face.
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Post by Groink on Jul 9, 2009 15:25:13 GMT -5
^
Sorry, man. It's weird carrying around that feeling in the pit of your stomach for a while. :/
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Maverick
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Post by Maverick on Jul 10, 2009 13:36:55 GMT -5
Groink,
Finally went back to flight side and had my first instrument flight. It went quite well. Had three point to points, 5 direct to nav aids, held at a published holding pattern, followed by a VOR approach into KPNS, then got radar vectored to final for an ILS approach at home field. It was pretty intense. It was a two hour flight, and I only had 4 minutes of that flight to sit back do nothing and enjoy the view. The rest of the time I was navigating and talking on the radio.
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Post by Groink on Jul 10, 2009 13:41:08 GMT -5
Ugh. That sounds absolutely draining!
Bet it's nice to flip up the visor and see the runway lined up right where you expected it!
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Post by Maverick on Jul 10, 2009 14:45:31 GMT -5
Ugh. That sounds absolutely draining! Bet it's nice to flip up the visor and see the runway lined up right where you expected it! Not today though, we do instrument flight whether the it's VMC or IMC out. Most of the flying today was pretty much VMC at 16,000'. It would take forever to complete the instrument stage if we only flew during IMC. It's still the same thing though, so no biggie.
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