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Post by palavore on Nov 7, 2010 13:55:40 GMT -5
but that still does not negate the fact that men also experience pressure to be attractive. In those younger years, when relationships were primarily fueled by hormones, the pressure of physical attraction on males was the greatest. Now, wealth and status has made physical attraction the secondary standard as long term commitments finally enter the picture. Though, not much really changes for how men rate women. It's only the game plan that changes--like going from a high school jock to a high powered corporate lawyer. Of course, physically attractive males will always be around as a cheap snack for women. Funny thing though, when exposed to "copulance", a female pheromone, men lose their ability to distinguish attractive women from unattractive women. This is a kind of chemical warfare you normally see in plants and insects. What women need is this "copulance" pheromone, not makeup. I probably wouldn't have started this thread if I had clicked on that link while exposed to "copulance". Though, you would probably smell really bad to other women and children.  |
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Post by Yingy on Nov 8, 2010 18:27:24 GMT -5
EA girls, how did you learn to do makeup that fits your EA look? I only recently learned the right use of eye makeup for me, since I could never follow the makeup tips for Nordic girls that I see in Scandinavian magazines... I don't wear much makeup but I think what works for me is to just focus on the features you have and what works best for those features just not focus on the whole face at once. I find asian woman that use tape or have the double eyelid surgery to me makes their eyes look smaller and puffy all the time. The eyelids always look puffy and swollen even years after the surgery. |
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Post by milkman's baby on Nov 12, 2010 18:38:42 GMT -5
EA girls, how did you learn to do makeup that fits your EA look? I only recently learned the right use of eye makeup for me, since I could never follow the makeup tips for Nordic girls that I see in Scandinavian magazines... I don't wear much makeup but I think what works for me is to just focus on the features you have and what works best for those features just not focus on the whole face at once. I find asian woman that use tape or have the double eyelid surgery to me makes their eyes look smaller and puffy all the time. The eyelids always look puffy and swollen even years after the surgery. Women, in all countries of all races, have totally abused the original concept of cosmetics. Cosmetics were originally created for the purposes of enhancing what you already have. Instead, women pile and cake on and create all these weird clown techniques that change who they are. Might as well get plastic surgery. Like I said before, I wonder what some of these girls' boyfriends would say if they saw them without makeup. What would you say if you were dating a guy with a perfect six pack of abs, only to find one day that he's been airbrushing that crap on the entire time? To toyo - yes, I have the same problem. I mentioned here before how these eye makup tutorials are all either for completely Asian eyes or completely double lidded non-Asian eyes. I have weird eyes that are really in between. My makeup looks weird no matter what. The biggest problem I have, though, is finding a haircut and more important a hair STYLE to flatter my bizarre shape face. My Asian parent has the widest, flattest Asian face and my white parent has the typical narrow, slender Caucasian face. So my face is a weird combination. You'd think it would be attractive, but it's not. And sometimes, wearing foundation makes it even worse because it flattens out and exaggerates certain features. I don't know how to describe it. Basically, my face gets bigger as it goes down. lol I guess you could call my face shape a tear drop shape. lmao And it doesn't help that I have a double chin (I like to call it off as baby fat, okay?). I almost look exactly like that iCarly girl except my face is rounder and puffy at the cheeks. One thing I've learned is to avoid headbands of any kind at all cost. Anyway, I'm getting too girly with this convo. Let's get back to making fun of those Chinese girls... |
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Post by hypeforlife91 on Nov 12, 2010 19:08:43 GMT -5
^ I too, have problems determining face shape. I have concluded that I am in between a heart-shaped face and an oval face or maybe a potato would work too on my "puffier days" when I feel fat. Actually, both parents have chiseled faces and mine still has some baby fat (haha, yeah). Maybe when I get older my face will look more chiseled as it is still kinda fleshy now, but people say its a good thing as I will age very well! I find that shoulder length hair makes me look sexy and long hair works too, just highly maintenance. I have never tried any style above the shoulder. I love headbands! Gossip Girl totally got me all excited cause we all know that Blair is the headband legend. |
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Post by milkman's baby on Nov 12, 2010 19:14:27 GMT -5
^ I too, have problems determining face shape. I have concluded that I am in between a heart-shaped face and an oval face or maybe a potato would work too on my "puffier days" when I feel fat. Actually, both parents have chiseled faces and mine still has some baby fat (haha, yeah). Maybe when I get older my face will look more chiseled as it is still kinda fleshy now, but people say its a good thing as I will age very well! I find that shoulder length hair makes me look sexy and long hair works too, just highly maintenance. I have never tried any style above the shoulder. I love headbands! Gossip Girl totally got me all excited cause we all know that Blair is the headband legend. No, I like headbands too. I just look horrible in them. I'm jealous of people that look good in them, but no matter what size or how I try to wear it, it doesn't not flatter my face shape AT ALL. My face is semi-flat and it just does not go right with headbands. Yeah, I can't pull off the short hair either. I went to an expensive salon once where the stylists knew what they were doing. She told me with my face shape I need to keep my hair long, but no matter what I should never get it cut directly where my chin ends, because that apparently makes the face look fatter. But because I still smoke my face is getting thinner. So once I get emphysema we can all see how slim my face looks then. |
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Post by toyomansi on Nov 13, 2010 9:48:56 GMT -5
This channel has also helped me a lot ^^ I love how her tips are so easy to learn and look natural (except her more dramatic looks). ^ I am these days thinking what kind of haircut could give my hair more volume. It's already shoulder length and layered, but only my mom cuts my hair, she's good but not a real hairdresser (getting haircuts is too expensive around here...). Before when I used to perm my hair, it had too much volume, but when it's naturally straight it often looks heavy and flat... Should maybe blowdry some volume into it (but at least my hair now isn't as flat as in my avatar...). |
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Post by FreckleFoot on Nov 17, 2010 10:50:37 GMT -5
Or perhaps, now that more women are creating their own wealth and status, it is only the man's commitment that would come into question. That may actually go against picking a man who also has wealth and status because, since it is so attractive, he would certainly have plenty of beautiful women to choose from and one can easily be tempted. Interesting video. I think there would be plenty of women who wouldn't mind stinking if they could pick any man they wanted. LOL Though I think others would have issues with getting a man only because of the artificial pheromones they are wearing. Then again, make-up can lead a woman to attract a man who is only interested in her for her appearance, but I suppose the one difference is that she might also feel better about her looks temporarily, whereas pheromones might still leave her sad when looking in the mirror (and also smelly). So if a woman is only looking to feel better about her appearance, make-up is a better option. It's also far less risky than plastic surgery if you really feel ugly enough to want that. It sounds like you might have a similar face to me. I guess my face would be oval, though when I have a big grin it looks round. This just makes me more convinced we must have quite similar face shapes: I used to be able to wear headbands when my face was rounder as a kid, but now it looks ridiculous no matter what I try. Though I don't think I tried a lot of different headbands. I've tried to give my hair more volume for ages because I always felt as if it looked like I had been ironed on top of my head. I had the shoulder length, layered hair, lots of blowdrying, making it curlier, special mousse and hairsprays... Now I just use a hairdryer with a round brush attachment and leave it at that. I liked the mousse the most. I also had a great hairspray that an old hairdresser gave to me for free, but I don't remember what it was called.  |
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Post by palavore on Nov 18, 2010 13:32:18 GMT -5
Or perhaps, now that more women are creating their own wealth and status, it is only the man's commitment that would come into question. That may actually go against picking a man who also has wealth and status because, since it is so attractive, he would certainly have plenty of beautiful women to choose from and one can easily be tempted. Hah, I think don't so many people are rational enough to apply the mathematics of game theory to their mate selection. They usually overreach (overplay their position) and fall short.  I think we might have different ideas about commitment (apart from the usual gender distortion  . I view the value of a man's commitment as inseparable from his resources. What else remains other than his personality? You can't raise children on personality alone. Though, it's rather romantic experiment... So you agree that the long term consequences are the same. It's only whether she can deceive herself or not that favors make-up over pheromones. But can you discount the effect of the pheromone, of being more desirable? This might have a positive effect on self image, more so than cosmetics, because the reaction from the opposite is stronger and more irrational. All in all, I see a market for the copulence pheromone. Well, there's always market for something, but this would satisfy the female need to feel desirable much more than cosmetics. |
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Post by ahliang on Nov 20, 2010 13:21:56 GMT -5
that s one of the many reasons i really wish i had been born a guy. So you're saying that you wish you had been born into a group where the social norms against makeup is strongly enforced regardless of sexual orientation? Sounds like you want makeup banned for women. i fail to understand your logic here: by a group do you mean gender? when you say that in that group the 'social norms against makeup' are 'strongly enforced regardless of sexual orientation' it appears you forgot that many men actually wear make up, especially gay men. and it s a growing trend... so how does that sound like i want 'makeup banned for women'? that was one of the reasons and that reason was the expectation for women to look the way they're portrayed in the media. i m not saying there s no such expectation for men but i think we can all agree that females are much more bombarded with such expectations than men are. no offense but i find much of this thread to be entirely inconsistant. the way these girls are posing in the pics is obviously helping them look better: ie: it s not just the make up! the way the shadows fall on their face, the lighting being done differently etc... if they were to walk down the street you d likely have *some* idea that their nose is not as thin as it looks and their jaw more squarish...i think this can be illustrated by the first example you posted: in the first pic she s awkwardly smiling, making her jaw squarer than it likely is and thining her lips; in the second, you can tell from her clavicles that she s inhaling, that it therefore thins her face as her muscle contract and her smile, now showing some teeth, elongates her face...last example would be the most obvious one... and looking at the pics on the website, even without make up, despite the 'natural-state' photo being anything but flattering (slouching, raised eybrow, wrong angle and bad lighting); i can tell you that the 5th girl is naturally very attractive. if some women cake it on, it s often obvious in the daylight anyways... on a more personal note, the difference in look i have with or without make up is just as blatant as these women. i know members on this board have seen me with and without make up...did they scream in disgust when they saw me without? no. because even if it might be 'startling' to see me in my natural state (that saying that i still pluck...maybe women should stop plucking and shaving too? isn t that what you re basically advocating? 'natural beauty'?), we all know what make up does and what use it s for... if you still didn t know it...then it could very well be you re either playing dumb or still are very innocent...or sheerly ignorant...try dating one of these ladies, gaining their trust to have them be comfortable enough not to wear make up around you and then telling them 'Wouldn't it be more convenient to get plastic surgery?'  to prove my point: has anyone ever noticed how kids often look similar despite the gender? if not for the clothes and haircut they sport, how it s easy to mistake a boy from a girl and vice versa? gender is a social construct and there s no clear definition of what a woman should be (look at the Caster Semenya controversy if you must) nor should look like biologically speaking. yet, gender has 'some' biological backing. feminity on the other hand has NONE and is entirely socially constructed (i know boys that are naturally more 'feminine' than i). because we re not born 'feminine' we have to create the impression we are. as a social construct, it is what is expected of us. why else would we need to shave and pluck? seeing your reaction on makeup i wouldn t be surprised if you thought girls didn t armpit hair in their 'natural state'... the same goes for make up. we re not all born will long luscious lashes, big eyes, thin noses, soft bubbly lips and all those features you would expect to be feminine. so we have to create the impression. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2011 10:26:35 GMT -5
^ I like Bare Escentuals Mineral Foundation with SPF (Original Formula). It is natural and chemical-free. I tried the newer "matte version" and thought it would look better, but for some reason the coverage was a little..lacking. I think my oily skin soaked it up. It is recommended that people with oily skin use powders as it is dry, hence counteracts with the oil. In theory, liquid foundations (definitely and especially oil-based) will make it even oilier. As with all foundations (whether or not there is sunscreen in it)..I don't think you want to cake a lot of it on. You honestly just need a really tiny bit of this stuff and you already have fantastic coverage. It should look natural and feel that way too. If you cake too much on, it will magnify your pores and if you take a photo of yourself, you will look like a ghost from the white cast from the sunscreen. So ladies, remember, a little goes a long, long way! thanks for the help! =) I 'll try out the mineral makeup. I've seen commercials for it on late night tv and have been kinda curious about it. and thank you Frecklefoot for your help. I've been reading about BB cream and have been curious to try it out. and it's nice to be able to mention makeup and eyeshapes without people raising an eyebrow and wondering what the heck you're talking about... ahliang I totally agree with you about other factors besides makeup accounting for some of the difference in how the girls look before and after. I find for me that when I style my hair it makes the most difference in how I look (and feel), even moreso than makeup and it seems to be the case with these girls as well in addition to lighting, poses etc |
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Post by sim on Mar 19, 2011 14:00:01 GMT -5
A lot of the Chinese girls in the gym I go to wear a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTT of makeup. Even to work out. Personally, I find it impressive that 1. it doesn't melt 2. they can shower and remove everything but their fake eyelashes. (I've never worn them so I wouldn't know how easily they come off).
I think the reason why Chinese girls look so different with makeup is because of the eyelashes- I have yet to see a Chinese girl with naturally long or thick lashes, so eye makeup (much like to a blonde lashed caucasian) can make a huge difference.
Sometimes (from what I've seen in the gym) they looked better before all of that 1/2 hour application of 'smokey eye' makeup.
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Post by palavore on Mar 20, 2011 2:47:11 GMT -5
Hmmm... Asian girls at my local gym are usually good with makeup. I hardly see any Chinese girls. Only the Filipino girls like working-out.  The blonds are the ones that cake it on. I should chat them up. I guess it means they're advertising  . |
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Post by palavore on Mar 20, 2011 2:51:53 GMT -5
ahliang I totally agree with you about other factors besides makeup accounting for some of the difference in how the girls look before and after. I find for me that when I style my hair it makes the most difference in how I look (and feel), even moreso than makeup and it seems to be the case with these girls as well in addition to lighting, poses etc. Speaking of lighting, poses, hair, etc... Something makes your head look tiny in your avatar photo. |
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Post by YSLove on Aug 27, 2011 3:10:57 GMT -5
omg that's absurd/ incredible!! Like Yingy, I also am in awe of their skill...  |
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Post by Uncle Hank on Nov 9, 2011 9:04:44 GMT -5
Emily Chang. Eurasian, maybe. Very pretty. This is an example of when she looked great with light makeup covering stories in Mainland China for CNN:  This is what happens when she moves back to the U.S. to anchor for Bloomberg and the American makeup artists at the television studio apply their dog sh*t "touch" and make her go hamster-hair color. I was watching her on tv this morning at work and her make-up looks much worse than in this picture. I can't find an up to date picture that does the damage justice:  Here she is going for the baboon-fro look. Make-up is reasonable though:  Typical ABC girl look. I've probably posted something about this before. I see it all the time. All those Asian, 20 something fresh grads who come out here from the U.S. (sometimes Canada) to work in Hong Kong; All independent and "confident", in all black work dresses, high heeled pumps, hair pulled back into a pony tail so tight it gives them a face lift, heavy tans, heavy make-up (especially, around the eyes) and heavy bitch shields (sometimes). It probably starts in high school, where the naive girl goes to some department store in suburban white America where she's growing up and has a cosmetics counter woman (who has no clue about the right color for Asian skin tone) begin to clown out her poor face. Said girl walks away thinking she looks like a million bucks. Unfortunately, it usually looks loud and gross. Discuss. |
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. I view the value of a man's commitment as inseparable from his resources. What else remains other than his personality? You can't raise children on personality alone. Though, it's rather romantic experiment...
The blonds are the ones that cake it on. I should chat them up. I guess it means they're advertising 
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