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Post by halfbreed on Jul 30, 2007 1:22:11 GMT -5
So, what/who do you consider to be Eurasian? Is a Eurasian a person with only European and Asian ancestry? If they have Hispanic or African ancestry, as well as European and Asian, can they still be considered Eurasian? With Australians and New Zealanders, who are white, but not really European.. can they be considered Eurasian? What about the Jewish? Are they considered European or white? Does someone with Jewish and Asian ancestry make for a Eurasian? Do you think there's a difference between Eurasians whose Asian ancestry lies in South Asia, Southeast Asia &/or East Asia? Are there Asians who identify as Eurasian because they've been raised in a Western country? If so, what do you think of it?
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Post by daisypukes on Jul 30, 2007 2:55:13 GMT -5
^What exactly is "white Jewish" and what is this "other kind of Jewish"? I was under the assumption that Judaism was a religion (to get all PC and douchey about it). As far as Semitic roots go, don't Jews with Semitic roots fall into the categories of Ashkenazi or Sephardic? Do you consider one of these white and the other one nonwhite? Or did you mean by "other kind of Jewish" people who have no Semitic roots but who converted (or whose parents converted) to Judaism a la Sammy Davis Jr?
Anyway, the older I get the less I think racial categories make sense. It's just all too complicated to break people up into these neat little groupings. And even when you try to break them into sub-categories like EA it gets messy. f**k it.
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Post by daisypukes on Jul 30, 2007 5:29:20 GMT -5
@zoff: Well, I think it's kind of dangerous to base your opinion on someone's racial background by what they look like. I won't pretend to know that much about the intricacies of different Jewish backgrounds, but it is a lot more complicated than looking white or not looking white. And if we were to judge whether someone can be included into a category based on appearance people like Nina Brosh and Mark Paul Gosselaar (sp?) would be considered simply white.
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Post by 0 on Jul 30, 2007 7:22:21 GMT -5
It seems like it would be easier if there was one Asian phenotype or unifying culture but there isn't. Obviously Asian here means east asian to the members even though places like India, Afghanistan and most of Russia is in Asia. I believe(correct me if I am wrong) eurasian originally meant half British and half Indian, much like Hapa meant half native Hawaiian. Mulatto is so much easier since all one needs is a bit of African taint
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Post by ladystacey on Jul 30, 2007 12:27:07 GMT -5
I never thought much into the word but to me it's how the word is spelled, Euro + Aisan.
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Post by 0 on Jul 30, 2007 12:32:38 GMT -5
so Tiger Woods is voted off the island?
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Post by cruelangel on Jul 30, 2007 17:08:38 GMT -5
^
He is Blasian. And I consider him my half Asian brother.
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Post by penguinopolipitese on Jul 31, 2007 0:16:13 GMT -5
I think eurasian is a very specific term. I think for me I'd count mixes down to the 1/4 scale... if you're 1/8 asian and 7/8 white...you're white. Someone with afro or aboriginal or whatever thrown in there is probably just mixed. Aussies and Kiwis are full of european descended people, so they count as euros. Effectively when you say Jew, you are talking about european jews and most are pretty much white...
I don't think SE Asian and East asian really makes a difference in naming... but I'd probably picture someone with SE Asian roots if asked to picture a eurasian. Definitely some asians that are pretty white-washed and can relate to a 'eurasian feeling'.
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Post by thesa on Jul 31, 2007 1:30:06 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure I remember discussing something like this before. Since the Middle East is considered part of Asia, an Arab/Caucasian mix can also be considered 'Eurasian'. However, I've never seen these people describe themselves as EA. I consider South Asian/Caucasian mix to be Eurasian, along with E/SE Asian/Caucasian mixes as well. I understand that in the UK (and Europe) the term 'Asian' is used to describe Indians, Pakistanis, etc. My thoughts: Arab/Caucasian = Eurabian (E/SE/S Asian)/(Caucasian/Hispanic) = Eurasian Arab/Asian = Arasian?? Black/Caucasian = mulatto Black/Asian = blasian(?) / Afroasian <-- my preferred term Native American/(Caucasian/Hispanic) = mestizo Indeterminate mix = protean race (definition of protean: assuming many different forms. I'd use this term to describe people who are so racially mixed that quantifying their racial background is impossible) When I read posts like these, I can't help myself but thinking that you're talking about some horse and dog races (rabbits, if you prefer).... God, let the people just be people and forget about those bloody terms... Like it would make a difference....
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Post by halfbreed on Aug 3, 2007 10:31:06 GMT -5
I don't think you can be considered EA if you have more than E + A in you. Personally, I think it's kind of disrespectful to the other races in the mix (they're being reft out ;_;).
An EA to me is someone who is South East or East Asian and European (I don't consider Arabs or Jews European). Percentages don't really matter.
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Post by 2bob on Aug 3, 2007 22:37:35 GMT -5
I think eurasian is a very specific term. I think for me I'd count mixes down to the 1/4 scale... if you're 1/8 asian and 7/8 white...you're white. Someone with afro or aboriginal or whatever thrown in there is probably just mixed. Aussies and Kiwis are full of european descended people, so they count as euros. Effectively when you say Jew, you are talking about european jews and most are pretty much white... I don't think SE Asian and East asian really makes a difference in naming... but I'd probably picture someone with SE Asian roots if asked to picture a eurasian. Definitely some asians that are pretty white-washed and can relate to a 'eurasian feeling'. Mixed race Aboriginies actually find it insulting to be labelled as "mixed". I reckon to be eurasian u have to have a mixture of AZN and Euro in u no matter what the percentage.
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Post by cnjc on Nov 17, 2007 6:34:10 GMT -5
the truth is this... the term "eurasian" means someone of both asian and european decent, that means that it shud b only asian and european decent... but that doesn't mean that u hav 2 b exactly 50/50 to be considered eurasian... i heard from somewhere that you are considered part a race if you have at least 1/8 of that race in your blood so yeah it really is kinda confusing... but also... i wonder if your like half eurasian half like african... would you b considered partly eurasian??
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Post by saeka on Nov 17, 2007 7:10:35 GMT -5
My head hurts when I think about it actually.....
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