The Balancing

[avax]

...Act? or Mind?

So I was at a bar/restaurant/dance hall the other night with a friend and we helped ourselves to the buffet and sat around on the persian rugs, enjoying ourselves. It turned out that we were sharing our nearby space with a couple of free spirits who were into new age healing, numerology and other things. As the night progressed I was gradually admitted into the world of "healing" and mysticism, dark and light energies.

Funny that I didn't quite think of things that way before but it's been flitting through my mind recently - this idea of light and dark energy. I could pinpoint when things aren't right, but the way it was put into words crystallized what I'd been merely feeling by intuition or gut most of the time. I also realized there were some very dark spots present right now that I seriously had to remove, in order for myself to progress forward - as a person. Dark spots meaning people who had very negative energies.

I also started to notice that there are neutral characters who oscillate between dark and light, and attract dark energies or negative energies. If not strong enough, the dark may be able to overwhelm and destroy. In plain terms, when someone isn't willfully or mentally strong enough, negative influences whether situational or manifesting in persons start to drive them crazy. They no longer are who they once were. They can be vengeful, angry, indifferent, violent, vindictive, conniving, jealous.

I began wondering why certain situations have the power to transform personalities that are supposed to be innate. How can an innate personality, the one you've known your whole life, run the risk of self-destructing? Of ruining yourself? Of not particularly being aware of it? Is there such a thing as an innate personality, or is "change" always a scapegoat?

WHY do we find ourselves doing things in certain situations up to the point where we no longer recognize ourselves and how do we learn to re-condition and remove negative influences? Do we depend on friends and family to tell us when we're so radically changed? (for the worse?)

Why are some "weaker" than others?
Why do some attract negative energies or influences?
- are those people victims?
Is it the responsibility of anyone to look out for those who are weaker?
What about those who are more stupid? Do they deserve to self-destruct? What if it's someone you love? What if someone you love is destroying you? What if your personality is so strong you begin to destroy someone who's weaker?

[D.A]

^ Reading your post, I found it quite interesting/amusing that when you referred to 'plain terms' you mentioned human psychology traits, whereas your more enlightened terminology refers to 'light' and 'dark', 'positive' and 'negative'... I personally would refer to it the other way around.

Great questions btw, so back on topic:
Your topic revolves around social psychology behaviour, and it is very hard to determine why and how people are affected - and consequently act - as it really depends on the situation and the personnel involved.

Why are some "weaker" than others?
I agree to some extent that some people are 'weaker' than others in that some situations, something induces someone to lose their composure. However, I don't think there is one determining factor which you can simply say 'this' person is weaker than 'that' person.

Many factors can attribute to someone losing their composure and you can't just pinpoint to one. For instance the persons current mood status (i.e. currently going through a tough time deeming them to be somewhat depressed) plays a huge role. Other things such as disagreement (in line with their views) on the current topic of conversation.

Why do some attract negative energies or influences?
- are those people victims?
I think its not rather attraction but the exposure of personality incompatibility between the two which would invoke/instigate negative behaviour. Some instances these incompatibilities might never be exposed and therefore the negative behaviour never arises.

I think they are only victims if they tend to continue with their negative behaviour and this usually happens if one of them loses their composure and starts to increase this negative influence onto the victim.

Is it the responsibility of anyone to look out for those who are weaker?
It is to be someones responsibility if they feel that it is going nowhere, and that this negative vibe between the culprits is to affect the rest of the group. At this stage a change in topic, separation of the culprits is in order. It just goes downhill otherwise.

What about those who are more stupid? Do they deserve to self-destruct?
Depends on your relation with this person, how you want the situation to be (i.e. do you want them to calm down so you can continue having a good chat), etc...

What if it's someone you love?
No.

What if someone you love is destroying you? What if your personality is so strong you begin to destroy someone who's weaker?
Depends on how this is going to affect the relationship in the long term. A couple will almost never have everything in common, and arguments are inevitable. The question comes down to whether you as a couple are willing to accept going through these troubled moments together. At times - one person will have to compromise (which shows how much you actually love the other) in order for the relationship to work. This is not as easy as it sounds though as consistently compromising will swing the balance in their favour, and give them the impression that they can get away with this constantly (i.e. in other words *whip*).

If you truly love your partner, this is something you will have to sort out, letting it pass will not solve anything. Communication is the key factor. If you don't love your partner. Move on.

Also, by you mentioning 'being aware' of the light and dark energy is a good thing. It means that you are paying attention to the moods of people around you, and how those moods can instigate negative/positive behaviour (or in enlightened terms 'energy'). Nowadays the majority of people seem so self-absorbed (and I admit that I fall into this category every now and then) that they tend to disregard the feelings/moods of the others around them. It is usually this self-absorption that exposes the negative behaviour as they are too worried about what they think to actually sit back and take into the account the others around them...

edit: s*** that has been my longest post. ever. So this is what boredom at work is like...

[Guy in the white shirt]

Wow. Interesting post and reply.

I won't go into as much detail, but I think that people are always constantly evolving. Knowing your weaknesses and working towards being the person you want to be are good things - just as long as your goals are reasonable.

It takes all types to make the world go round, and its up to those who have a 'stronger' personality to be patient with those who don't and to understand them. There are a lot of people who pretend to have stronger personalities, but usually just find fault in others (thus showing up their own insecurities), they're the harder ones to deal with as they're the ones usually in denial. And thats when things can get difficult.

Hmm, I hope I haven't missed the point!

[DivaDancerLara]

The Book "The Secret" Talks about that what energy you put into the world is what you get back

Mere Christianity by C.S Lewis talks about it all being the plot of Satan in our lives

Borderline personality order concept talks about not knowing your true self same with Meyers Briggs theory

[cjsdad]

Hmm.

Your post is interesting, but those that inspired it are not.

www.skepdic.com/energy.html

Also see....
skepdic.com/numology.html

I know where you are going with YOUR original thoughts. But I believe it has little to do with anything mystical. It has to do with the decision to help those with weaker minds, or to leave them behind. The last few paragraphs, your thoughts, are interesting and pondered by the greatest thinkers and politicians of both our time and throughout history. Those questions, according to some philosophers, form the basis of political thinking ie "liberal" vs. "conservative".

But the dope smoker numerologist/energy readers haven't two brain cells to rub together so I feel the need to point out what I see as their folly, not yours.

[D.A]

cjsdad said:

Hmm.

Your post is interesting, but those that inspired it are not.

www.skepdic.com/energy.html

Also see....
skepdic.com/numology.html

I know where you are going with YOUR original thoughts. But I believe it has little to do with anything mystical. It has to do with the decision to help those with weaker minds, or to leave them behind. The last few paragraphs, your thoughts, are interesting and pondered by the greatest thinkers and politicians of both our time and throughout history. Those questions, according to some philosophers, form the basis of political thinking ie "liberal" vs. "conservative".

But the dope smoker numerologist/energy readers haven't two brain cells to rub together so I feel the need to point out what I see as their folly, not yours.

yeah my thoughts also. There is nothing mystical about it. Its merely trying to explain 'human psychology behaviour' in a way that they deem to be 'mystical'. (which is why I found the 'in plain terms' amusing).

Humans draw upon previous experiences, memories, current mood, current events, etc. for them to act/react in certain ways. They find comfort in things which have made them feel safe previously
For example an introverted person might look 'weaker' for the fact they are introverted, but that may not be the case.
They simply find comfort in being introverted. Break their comfort zone and they will react negatively.

It all revolves around psychology - which is why when you see psychologists in action they tend to question your past memories, your present situation and your planned future state - in order to understand your thoughts and behaviour and assess accordingly. (I'm no psychologist)

[DivaDancerLara]

^sometimes it can be problematic if they had bad memories to draw upon--then they respond in a negative way out of mistrust and a defensiveness that has developed over the years

[StrangeMagic]

divadancerlara said:

^sometimes it can be problematic if they had bad memories to draw upon--then they respond in a negative way out of mistrust and a defensiveness that has developed over the years

very true.. those bad memories can seriously hurt someone they care about and the relationship they're in. Dealt with it from my bf. He'd been cheated on and used and all that crap so many times so when it came to me he was so paranoid etc.. Now he's good but all that mistrust did do a good amount of damage to our relationship unfortunately. Now things are mended and much better but back then.. no good

[DivaDancerLara]

^yes I cut off a friend who actually ended up being toxic because this is what he did. He doesn't realize he is living in the past and he is soo imature I had to cut my losses with him. Sad thing is he traumatized me so much that I absorbed some of his bitterness and was taking it out on my friends when I realized this I knew it was the right decision to really walk away from him and not see him anymore. I am sure I have said things which I am sorry for too but it is better this way. I miss him though...the nice part of him.

[ConceptDesign]

Hm.. Cel, get off the drugs.

[D.A]

... just hand them to me instead.