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Post by laidbacksonic74 on Dec 18, 2007 0:39:03 GMT -5
personally...I really don't know...I had this discussion with my former best friend ..if in fact a platonic relationship really do excist ....she and I ...where best friend at the time...she had a relationship ..and I didn't ..but that didn't bother me at all...and she felt the same way...but when her relationship ended ..she changed ...starting accusing me of falling in love with her...and starts talkin behind my back ..that I was happy her relationship ended....i even laughed... :S ...we really fought a lot...It just got to far...I just pulled the plug...and said whatever ...and wished her good luck nowadays one of my best friend is again a girl....and if she want to do something...normally I just cancel it..cuz I don't wanna be at that position again....but she's kinda persistent...so it's a go..i'm happy she did....cuz I'm myself again....  but for how long? ...don't know ...and don't care...it's party time baby!! |
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Post by JohnCoolYoungHistory on Dec 18, 2007 2:12:07 GMT -5
But when unattractive people are involved, it's a piece of cake.  BTW, I think this thread should be renamed to Straight guys and girls cannot be friends.  I think it's entirely possible otherwise. I think youre watching too much "Sex in the City". If you have any real homosexual guy friend. You have to be really careful. I hve experiances and I have heard from older and wiser women. Some homosexual men strive to be women and they envy your natural breast and your vagina. Everrytime you go out with them and guys oogle at you and not him...they feel it and it adds up and one day they will back stab you. Never forget hes still a man and he is so much stronger then you. LO f***ING L . |
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Post by lo1337a on Dec 18, 2007 3:48:09 GMT -5
Yes they can.
You have to take a long timeline into account. Any real friendship takes time. I feel like this generalization only thinks short term. Yes if you meet a girl in a bar, you probably won't be "friends". You probably won't get married either. But for god's sake, what if you actually do like spending time with each other but don't want to end up joined at the hip? You'll probably be friends (and hang out at the bar together). You can fool around with someone, fail at being a couple and still be friends after. It's sex, not a Do Or Die hoop of fire where you either marry this person or never see them again.
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Post by xandra on Dec 18, 2007 5:05:33 GMT -5
I realized that some women are worth far more than their sex, and that they would also be an ephemeral part of my life, unless I could learn to accept them as platonic friends. My life became a lot richer afterwards. I completely agree - unfortunately for those very attractive girls out there, I'm assuming based off of experience/talking to peers and new acquaintances that a lot of guys do not share this view because they think with their dicks. I've only met two girls who kept it real enough to admit to me they have lots of guy friends - however if they gave them the chance, most of them would have sex with them. I'm simply questioning those women who have tons of guy friends who believe they are thought of in a 100% truly platonic way. KEEP IT REAL! I think most girls realize that some of their guy friends would go for it given the chance. Hell, some girls keep guys around just for a confidence boost. I think as long as nobody strings someone else along/is too creepy about their feelings then things should be fine. Now, the weird thing is when you find out that someone you think of as completely platonic (ie. knew them since elementary school) always had a thing for you. But it goes both ways. There are plenty of girls pining away for a male friend, too scared to mess up the friendship to make a move. Honestly, being in a relationship makes all of this stuff a lot less complicated. |
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Post by laidbacksonic74 on Dec 18, 2007 8:44:05 GMT -5
personally...I really don't know...I had this discussion with my former best friend ..if in fact a platonic relationship really do excist ....she and I ...where best friend at the time...she had a relationship ..and I didn't ..but that didn't bother me at all...and she felt the same way...but when her relationship ended ..she changed ...starting accusing me of falling in love with her...and starts talkin behind my back ..that I was happy her relationship ended....i even laughed... :S ...we really fought a lot...It just got to far...I just pulled the plug...and said whatever ...and wished her good luck nowadays one of my best friend is again a girl....and if she want to do something...normally I just cancel it..cuz I don't wanna be at that position again....but she's kinda persistent...so it's a go..i'm happy she did....cuz I'm myself again.... but for how long? ...don't know ...and don't care...it's party time baby!! That sounds really strange, accusing someone of being in love with you  yeah it is....some peoples are a lil odd ...don't really care anymore...I guess when she make a friend...it's wise for her to do it with a girl..or a dude who isn't single. don't wish someone to be at a position where i was. anyway out of nowhere last week she called me...if we could meet or go clubbin with friends....I said yes ....but then again thought why? the last time we talked she said that she doesn't wanna talk to me..only when she feels like it...so I said goodbye then and wish her good luck...but she replies that she doesn't wanna end this friendship ... she is saying that she consider me as a friend..then don't ..then again yes ...very complicated....I don't consider a friendship is like walkin on a mine field ...if I say something wrong ...all hell brake loose ....naahh ..as friends you gotta trust each other... I trust my new friend ..who is a girl...a chiller not a nagger ;D |
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Post by Mr Brad Pitt on Dec 18, 2007 9:55:54 GMT -5
Yes they can. You have to take a long timeline into account. Any real friendship takes time. I feel like this generalization only thinks short term. Yes if you meet a girl in a bar, you probably won't be "friends". You probably won't get married either. But for god's sake, what if you actually do like spending time with each other but don't want to end up joined at the hip? You'll probably be friends (and hang out at the bar together). You can fool around with someone, fail at being a couple and still be friends after. It's sex, not a Do Or Die hoop of fire where you either marry this person or never see them again. Your nickname is full of LULZ. |
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Post by Emily on Dec 18, 2007 12:40:15 GMT -5
I think most girls realize that some of their guy friends would go for it given the chance. Hell, some girls keep guys around just for a confidence boost. I think as long as nobody strings someone else along/is too creepy about their feelings then things should be fine. Agreed on all parts. If a person can get over their attraction for the other, I don't see why friendship should be impossible between guys and girls. |
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Post by DivaDancerLara on Dec 20, 2007 11:18:56 GMT -5
Practically impossible (assuming they are attractive). But when unattractive people are involved, it's a piece of cake. BTW, I think this thread should be renamed to Straight guys and girls cannot be friends. I think it's entirely possible otherwise. Actually I beg to differ. Sometimes Gay guys can fall for their friends that are girls and vice versa but it get problematic because they get really confused. Same sexual tension is added on I have friends and have experienced it myself. Its really hard whether gay or straight. Sometimes more complicated with gay because they are gay and they want to hold on to that lifestyle. I had a friend that basically talked himself out of liking this girl cuz he was gay but anytime a guy would talk to her he would get supper jealous. One of my gay friends actually told me not to go on dates. I was confused that he said that I was all set to be his fag hag. |
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Post by DivaDancerLara on Dec 20, 2007 11:20:21 GMT -5
I used to think guys and girls could not be friends, too. Something changed though, around the time I turned 22. I actually hooked up with a long-time friend, and ended up losing her. I realized that some women are worth far more than their sex, and that they would also be an ephemeral part of my life, unless I could learn to accept them as platonic friends. My life became a lot richer afterwards. What made you cross that line and hook up? |
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Post by jewbird on Dec 20, 2007 19:30:52 GMT -5
If the definition of being a "friend" to a female is doing some catty bid for attention thing that goes way too far as a result of all their insecurities and commiserating with each other about that fact, then I agree with the proposition of the thread's title.
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Post by TotalWar on Dec 20, 2007 23:29:20 GMT -5
Guys who have female "friends" are usually no better than eunuchs tending to the harems of better men. In my experience the only way a female would ever agree to be "friends" with a guy is if he's a pathetic tool that they can suck dry. Then again I've been surrounded by nothing but white trash brats who act like they're 5 years old for the last years (that's community college for you, damn am I glad to be out of there). I've got a coworker thats "friends" with all the decent-looking girls at our job and no he's not getting laid nor will he ever. He admitted to me that he spent $150 on a Christmas gift for one. Pathetic. Never ever do a favor for a woman unless she does one for you in return.
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Post by black mamba on Dec 21, 2007 3:51:40 GMT -5
RE: The Master Ladder Theory
Funny read, but I noticed some glitches with continuity (not that I'm over-analyzing the text or anything).
My personal rating system:
60% looks
30% brains
10% how likely it is that I'd feel like punching him after he speaks
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Post by dynamicken on Dec 21, 2007 5:19:42 GMT -5
I used to think guys and girls could not be friends, too. Something changed though, around the time I turned 22. I actually hooked up with a long-time friend, and ended up losing her. I realized that some women are worth far more than their sex, and that they would also be an ephemeral part of my life, unless I could learn to accept them as platonic friends. My life became a lot richer afterwards. What made you cross that line and hook up? Well, we ended up going to different colleges so that put a huge separation between us. We'd see each other once in a while, every few months, and every time she'd act more and more sexual, touching me in ways friends shouldn't touch etc. Most guy friends wouldn't think much of it, but I felt something was up. One day, she was visiting me at my college and it was late, we were in my room together alone and...I wasn't actually that horny about her, but the vibes from her just kept getting stronger and stronger, and I was curious, so I went for it. She resisted a little bit at first, and we had like a minute of silence. The tension was so thick you could cut it with a knife. And then, she jumped on me and that was that. Afterwards, I realized I didn't really like her like that. I had a crush on her wayyy back in the day, but not any more. All it took was making ONE move...and she JUMPED on me. I'd hate to say it, but I lost respect for her. I started treating her worse than I used to, and we...fell out. |
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Post by hapalicious on Dec 21, 2007 10:55:32 GMT -5
^it has to be the girl s fault huh ? so you made the first move but it s because of the signals she was sending you... and then she "JUMPED" on you but it s because she s a horndog and not because you made a "ONE" move... ayaaaaaaaaaaaah. anyways...i do think it s possible. i don t know where i posted that again but most my friends are either: -guys -dorky girls/girls that used to be dorky at some point -asocials: WoW addicts (guys), girls that are too "scary" (as in the way they dress and talk...) for people to approach them...and they don t approach people themselves. and like i said ...a lot of them are guys. i don t see them as potential bf either. i actually have more esteem for my friends than any of the bf i had and would hate for that to change. though i did have a friend like me (not as a friend), he s past that point and we re back to being regular friends. i never look at my guy friends as people i could date. i know too much (for any romance to develop...like looking at a brother i guess.) either from hearing it from them, their friends or ex/girlfriends and i don t think they look at me in this light either. not to mention, a lot of them have a gf . also, what if your friend is older ? can t you be like a surrogate little sister ? i know so... so yes, i m sure it s possible. too much "when harry met sally" for some people here |
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Post by DivaDancerLara on Dec 21, 2007 13:02:35 GMT -5
What made you cross that line and hook up? Well, we ended up going to different colleges so that put a huge separation between us. We'd see each other once in a while, every few months, and every time she'd act more and more sexual, touching me in ways friends shouldn't touch etc. Most guy friends wouldn't think much of it, but I felt something was up. One day, she was visiting me at my college and it was late, we were in my room together alone and...I wasn't actually that horny about her, but the vibes from her just kept getting stronger and stronger, and I was curious, so I went for it. She resisted a little bit at first, and we had like a minute of silence. The tension was so thick you could cut it with a knife. And then, she jumped on me and that was that. Afterwards, I realized I didn't really like her like that. I had a crush on her wayyy back in the day, but not any more. All it took was making ONE move...and she JUMPED on me. I'd hate to say it, but I lost respect for her. I started treating her worse than I used to, and we...fell out. yeah see I don't like that suggestive touching it sends out the wrong message had too many "friends" that did that. Got on my nerves cuz they didn't like me that way so it just turned on the wrong switches. |
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I think it's entirely possible otherwise.
