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Post by vick on May 24, 2005 17:04:23 GMT -5
Oh I meant turks from Turkey, I just repeated him These are all well-known countrymen. None are known to be "Turkish." I thought he was talking about Turks from Turkey. ;D But I don't think he knows himself. As for Turkic, it is a linguistic term. It doesn't have any relation to race theory. You can't say that somebody looks Turkic or not.
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Post by boxrebl on May 24, 2005 17:46:25 GMT -5
There are not many Turanids in Turkey, it is only admixture there which isn't more than 15%. Turkey, Kazakhstan, whatever. The point is that those Turanid Central Asian areas lay on the OPPOSITE side of China from Yang LuChan's birthplace separated by ~1500 miles. And 200 years ago, people often lived and died in the same areas - and didn't necessarily move around as much (as travel was far more difficult). Aiko - Hebei is in the NE, not NW. A slight difference of ~1500 miles. I'd also like to see a pic of someone who is 1/16 Russian and 15/16 Asian yet still looks pretty mixed. Because, that would be a freakishly rare occurence, even if true. And as far as an average Turkish "look," here's one.
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Post by vick on May 24, 2005 18:04:47 GMT -5
There are not many Turanids in Turkey, it is only admixture there which isn't more than 15%. Turkey, Kazakhstan, whatever. The point is that those Turanid Central Asian areas lay on the OPPOSITE side of China from Yang LuChan's birthplace separated by ~1500 miles. And 200 years ago, people often lived and died in the same areas - and didn't necessarily move around as much (as travel was far more difficult). here's one [/url].[/quote]So what? Turkey and Kazakhstan aren't close either. ::)And still there are Turanids in both of those countries as well as in Hungary.
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Post by Aiko on May 24, 2005 19:14:29 GMT -5
Meh. I wouldn't really consider Hebei as NE. People there aren't typically like North Easterners. What I was saying is that if Middle Eastern influences in the case of Judaism even reached as far as South Eastern China, let alone North East. In case you didn't know, not to far from the Evenki settlements in the far far North East of China in the Black River and Yalu River area, there are a lot of Kazakhs and Kyrgyz and Russians. Majority of them are inter mixing with Han Chinese and the local Koreans.
My cousin who is 1/16 Russian is a result of such mixing. Her dad's from Black River. Her cousin, on the other hand, is 1/16 Russian and 1/8 Persian, but she looks 100% Han Chinese except for she's got Caucasian physique and Caucasian skin. I don't know if my cousin would be okay with me posting her pic though...
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Post by Aiko on May 24, 2005 19:18:30 GMT -5
This is Azra Akin. Ms. Turkey 2002 I think. I can see her mixedness. In fact, I think she looks more like a Kazakh rather than a Turkish.
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Post by Hossenpfeffer on May 24, 2005 20:14:30 GMT -5
^ see that is what I would call a cross between a single and a double further proof of your dumbness. the eye you are talking about is simply a double. white people are not the only ones who have double eye lids. an eye not looking like a typical white eye doesn't make the shape any less double. maybe you should stop worrying about what to claim other peoples eyes as and just get your own eyes checked. Yeah, I think simmie is assuming that single fold eyelids means you are asian..another asian stereotype that does not hold true. People will look at you like you are stupid if you say that here in the US. I think its very ignorant if you ask me.... I don't know maybe the UK is not really expose to a lot of Asian cultures aside from India or maybe the only Asian people they see are some old Japanese tourist taking pictures..heh, i don't like to explain what people think or their position...Yeah, I look more Asian with hints of some european features. I also have a double fold eyelid, but it doesn't mean im white..
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Post by vick on May 24, 2005 20:55:15 GMT -5
This is Azra Akin. Ms. Turkey 2002 I think. I can see her mixedness. In fact, I think she looks more like a Kazakh rather than a Turkish. She does look like Turanid, but I 'd never take her for Kazakh, she looks more like Uzbek, who have less Mongoloid features, but they are also lots of Turanids there too. Kazakh variant on Azra may look like this. Btw, you look Kazakh, I f I met you in that area I would take you only for kazakh, not for Korean, Chinese or anybody else.
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Post by Aiko on May 24, 2005 21:03:02 GMT -5
wjck, I wanted to mention that too lol. She does look more Uzbek than Kazakh because Uzbeks have my Aryan characteristics. What do you think of the Kyrgyz and Uyghur? More or less Mongol features? I definitely look East Asian, although a Tatar from Russia did ask me if I was also a Tatar once. edit: At a Turkish forum, an Uzbek was harassing me about my ethnicity because apparently I look like this Uzbek actress. This was my signature picture.
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Post by vick on May 24, 2005 21:24:34 GMT -5
wjck, I wanted to mention that too lol. She does look more Uzbek than Kazakh because Uzbeks have my Aryan characteristics. What do you think of the Kyrgyz and Uyghur? More or less Mongol features? I definitely look East Asian, although a Tatar from Russia did ask me if I was also a Tatar once. Kyrgyz are more Mongloid than Kazakhs, Uighurs are between Uzbeks and Kazakhs. I'd wish I could tell you what actress you look like, but I am not Uzbek or Kazakh, so I never watched their films.
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Post by Aiko on May 24, 2005 21:46:30 GMT -5
curious... what are you, wjck?
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Post by Aiko on May 24, 2005 22:33:19 GMT -5
Yeah I remember seeing your pic. You do look Eurasian even though you have more Caucasian blood.
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Post by Tricky on May 25, 2005 10:13:24 GMT -5
And you admit these guys' eyes are racially-ambiguous, yet then claim those same racially-ambiguous traits are what's used to ID different races. You see a slight problem there? I think you misread. ;D I never disagreed with you either. I said you can determine (accurately or not) someone's ethnicity by their eyes but only as a part of their other facial features.
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Post by boxrebl on May 25, 2005 11:09:03 GMT -5
^ You're just too confusing me, I give up. My cousin who is 1/16 Russian is a result of such mixing. Her dad's from Black River. Her cousin, on the other hand, is 1/16 Russian and 1/8 Persian, but she looks 100% Han Chinese except for she's got Caucasian physique and Caucasian skin. I don't know if my cousin would be okay with me posting her pic though... That's my point, there might be just a few select detectable atavistic traits - but on the whole, they would still easily pass for full Chinese. The greatly-diluted influence would be very minimal at most. This "Kazakh" could pass for full Asian. In fact, the Chinese men I posted look more "Caucasoid" than her.
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Post by sim on May 25, 2005 11:21:58 GMT -5
That is because people from Kazakhstan are a mixture of white and asian.
So a lot of them are "EA".
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Post by Aiko on May 25, 2005 11:30:11 GMT -5
I honestly don't think she can pass off as full Asia, but that's just my opinion. What's with the ""?
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