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Post by etudes on Mar 14, 2006 5:00:11 GMT -5
And for the dumbest stereotype of all, I will refer the guys and gals to this article on Brandon Lee, a gay Asian pornstar: www.giantrobot.com/issues/issue14/brandon/"In another fortunate twist of events, Chi Chi reveals that it was actually he who discovered Brandon at a Los Angeles bath house a few years ago. "He was just a patron playing around. I was like, 'That Asian man over there is fabulous, gorgeous. He's got a huge dick.' So I brought him to Catalina Video and they signed him to a contract." Brandon was only 18 when he got into the business. He's 20 or 21 now. He also wasn't in school, had a regular job, a steady boyfriend, and according to Chi Chi, was packing a 10-incher. Studies reveal that only one in every 10,000 men wield that much. Although Chi Chi didn't make any films with Brandon at first, he eventually directed him in the 72-minute hump-de-force, Fortune Nookie."  Yeah, the dude looks like he's 13 and just 5' 9", bet a lot of racists would be surprised to see his "spring roll" as one author tastelessly observed. URGH FAR OUT MAN... that pic XI .... shud write a warning or something!!! i'm feeling dizzy
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Post by shugi on Mar 14, 2006 5:14:53 GMT -5
i want to ask.. seraph how did you find out about this pornstar  but i prefer the "Petite" asian woman figure, i see that allot of european women have more.. fat. they generally have wider thighs and wider limbs, (to say it nicely) ofcourse this is a generalisation but its also my observation. you need to go between countries to notice the "Large" difference.
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Post by lauraroslin on Mar 14, 2006 6:57:35 GMT -5
Here's another myth.Black=big butt. Latina = Big butt.
Compare African Americans with their brethern on the African continent. I worked with a girl from Kenya. She was skinnier than me. She would tell me how the AFrican American students would make fun of her and tell her to eat and make fun of the fact that she did not have a "typical" African American body.
The fact is she probably had what would have been far a more typical African body but she ate a healthy diet she grew up with from Kenya, wheras African Americans on a whole eat alot of southern sould food.
Soul food = big hips, big butt. Black itself dosn't mean big.
Latinas are always said to have big bodies. But look at some of the indigenious population in some of these South American countries who still eat a healthy diet and are active are very thin.
Marketers are pushing to everyone that Jlo and every Latina Lady has a big butt. And you are all falling for it.
Obesity and diabetes are also a huge problem in the black and Hispanic population in the states.Correlation between the link of big breasts, hips and butts? I think it's lifestyle choice more than anything.
Take a look at marathon runners who are of African, European, Asian, and Latina descent. The shade of skin might be different but their body types are very similiar. Most likely due to diet and exercise.
As far as European women being more....fat. Perhaps it is also their diet and exercise. Like I said go to a local marathon or a training group and you'll find many very thin white women, (who would have thunk) with no wide hips or limbs to be seen.
Also if you compare vegans with meat eaters,vegans tend to be lighter than their meat eating counterparts regardless of race.
Again I think it boils down to what you put in your body and how active or not you are.
And Seraph...as far as height is concerned...
In my city the average height for white males is 5'10. I have a cousin who lives in Asia tell me she thought all white men were 6 ft tall. I couldn't stop laughing. Where are they getting this information?Obviously men lie not only about their penis size but their height. Asian women think white men are so gigantic. When I told her if she thought 5'10 was big, she said no. She wanted a man with a white man's height.
When I told her that was the average size of a white man she was in shock.
In my line of work I've had to get people's heights.Men are some of the most notorious liars.
One white guy swore up and down he was 5'11. I could eyeball his height and knew it wasn't true.Turns out he was 5'7.
And maybe white men look so big because it's usually the tiny asian women who end up dating them. I don't know why more asian women, even if they do date interracially don't find someone closer in height. There are plenty of average height white males. And for white males there are plenty asian girls above 5 feet tall.
I'm 5'3. THe last white guy I dated was 5'8.
Whereas my 4'11 asian girlfriend dated a 6 foot white guy.. So of course when people see them walking down the street, it's every stereotype come to life. You can't help but look.
Wheras when I dated my 5'8 white boyfriend we didn't get stares. A 4'11 girl with a 6 footer will. Everyone's perception will be that asian women are petite and white men are huge.
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Post by y2j on Mar 14, 2006 7:08:32 GMT -5
Hmmm... All this myth busting and stereotype smashing. Yet you stereotyped the White male Asian female relationship so willingly in the Eurasian Families thread. Ahh what to believe anymore... 
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Post by lauraroslin on Mar 14, 2006 7:15:29 GMT -5
Hmmm... All this myth busting and stereotype smashing. Yet you stereotyped the White male Asian female relationship so willingly in the Eurasian Families thread. Ahh what to believe anymore...  I gave a different view other than what was being posted on that thread. Let's not hide behind rose colored glasses. And yes...I also stereotyped short asian women going out with tall white men. Don't know if you've read it. But hope you enjoy it all the same.
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Post by y2j on Mar 14, 2006 7:36:56 GMT -5
I looked at it, but it reads the same as every other rant about white men and asian women together. Sure, it's true there are some men like that out there and there are women out there who feed the stereotype, but let's not make it out to be an absolute truth when it isn't. No one's hiding behind anything, but rather defending their own families from bigoted images of a few fatalists. Cheers.
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Post by Vestirse on Mar 14, 2006 13:59:49 GMT -5
I looked at it, but it reads the same as every other rant about white men and asian women together. Sure, it's true there are some men like that out there and there are women out there who feed the stereotype, but let's not make it out to be an absolute truth when it isn't. No one's hiding behind anything, but rather defending their own families from bigoted images of a few fatalists. Cheers. Why do you post everything I want to post before me? Psychic?  Amen to that. Eowyn - Yes, stereotypes abound in this thread, but when you, someone who has no trouble stereotyping other things, yells out loud about this, people may presume your agenda is a bit skewed. As Y2J said, no one is blind. I know Asian fetishists exist and Asian woman who hate themselves do too. I know some WM/AF will be this. But to write a post ranting about how all WM/AF are this? STEREOTYPE. Seraph - good call. I would have said the same.
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Post by Seraph on Mar 14, 2006 17:16:59 GMT -5
If it's ONLY a stereotype how come me who grew up in the West has two "different halves"?? One that seems like I was anorexic or something (+ what I call "typical" Asian long back/torso) and one that has normal (i.e. more than model thin) weight?? If it's not my mixed genetics?!  I have a difference in size of two numbers for shirts (European 34/36 [not French] and trousers ((36/)38)). I'm a little confused here. Isn't your description basically two Asian female stereotypes? (Anorexic and model thin?) You can have mixed genetics with monoracials too. My 4 children all seem to be a fusion of my wife and I. Seriously, if we were each alone with our kids observers could think they were not ours. I know everyone's having fun with Asian side/White side but why not just mother's side vs. father's side. My relatives seem to do that with our 4 kids all the time.
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Post by y2j on Mar 14, 2006 21:17:18 GMT -5
Why do you post everything I want to post before me? Psychic?  Haha, yes, spooky isn't it? 
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Post by lauraroslin on Mar 15, 2006 16:21:59 GMT -5
Vestirse and Y2j, so fast to pin me as the bigot. Because let's face it- my post in the Ea family was an in your face type post. Wheras there is racism in this thread, subtle but there. Yet you both turn a blind eye to it. Good for you that you can find a post like mine in the family thread that you both can rush and point fingers and cry racist, yet this whole thread reeks of it. Where are your cries? Or do you both deny that it is an underlying theme here as well?
Maybe it's just easier for you both to go pick the obvious. Racism isn't always in your face. Sad when the children of interracial relationships themselves prepetuate the stereotypes.
Newsflash for all you Ea girls who brag about your big butts and hips from your white side....
Black girls and hispanic girls have a stereotype that white girls have flat asses.
So why are you giving so much credit to your white side for?
But we all know that many white girls do have ample assets and that myth in the black and hispanic community about white girls with flat butts is a lie.
When I've been mistaken for being Hispanic I had a girl tell me I was so lucky that I had latina hips. One of my friends who knows I am half asian is always telling me to eat more so that I don't have such a flat ass.
Again? Which one is it? It's perception!
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Post by Vestirse on Mar 15, 2006 16:47:30 GMT -5
Actually, I didn't read this thread before. I usually stay away from threads like this. I just saw Y2J as the most recent posters and since I think his comments are usually thought provoking, I thought I might see what was up. Voila!
Also, I'm not so sure you can call me a child on an interracial relationship. Please read the comment below my screename - both my parents happen to be EA. And both their parents happen to be either EA or Asian (I never met my one Asian grandfather, just my two EA grandmothers), so there was nothing interracial there either. I however do have many aunts, uncles and cousins who have embarked upon interracial relationships.
I'm not sure how you can go around accusing us of perpetuating stereotypes. Just what stereotypes am I perpetuating? I am not the one who saw fit to pigeonhole all IR relationships that produce EAs as all asiaphile WMs and sellout AFs. I am not spouting off about all IR relationships being colorblind either. Please do not think you were the only person to figure this out. I know what the world is like and have seen enough human nature to understand that talking about it in absolutes will never paint a full picture.
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Post by lauraroslin on Mar 15, 2006 16:56:50 GMT -5
Talk about stepping on toes. Yes the post in the Ea family thread was very in your face. But I never, not once said the word -all. It was meant to be an attention getting post and I wanted to put forth a view that wasn't posted yet in the thread. I am also involved in an Ir as you are but I wanted to get away from that other equally ignorant and silly view that interracial relationships are symbols of racial harmony and peace.
I wasn't addressing you personally when I said eurasian children were perpetuating the sterotypes. I was pretty much addressing every one else in the thread that had neatly split their physcial attributes into the asian or white camp. So I apologize. That part wasn't directed at you.
But good for you saying you aren't blind to what is going on when it comes to race relations but it's obvious by reading alot of these posts in this thread that many people are oblivious to the internal racism that they carry or has been handed down to them.
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Post by Aiko on Mar 16, 2006 1:58:19 GMT -5
Chill out. Don't take online discussions so seriously. Plus, people are just making assumptions here. Nobody said "I HAVE A BIG WIDE ASS SO THAT MUST, AND I REPEAT, MUST HAVE COME FROM MY WHITE SIDE. IT'S A SCIENTIFIC FACT. END OF STORY."
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Post by lauraroslin on Mar 16, 2006 2:57:32 GMT -5
^ If people didn't take discussions seriously then you ought to say the same thing to Y2j and Vestirse because I obviously upset them with a post on EA families. You want all posters to agree? This is what makes these discussions interesting, not that we all have one blanket opinion. And check yourself on the wide ass comment. You said your slavic-middle eastern genes made you different from pigeon toed Asian girls. What a f***edup thing to say. You let white people hear that stuff about asians then you are perpetuating a stereotype. I hope you keep that kind of thing in your vain little head. It's kind of hard to say for me. I'm close to being full Asian but the Slavic and middle eastern genes in the family always made us a bit different from your average Asians. All the women from my dad's side of the family have great bodies. They're very slender but curvy or just very curvy... I guess a combo of both Asian and non-Asian traits. The legs, are, however, very non-Asian. We have very long and proportionate and straight legs, whereas a lot of Asians esp. girls seem lean towards the pigeon-toed side of the scale. I'm not thin at all. I'm very meaty. I have a very curvy behind... erm yeah. But I got the short genes. Dad's like 5'10 and mom's 5'6" but I'm only 5'3" (T_T) This is me 
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Post by penguinopolipitese on Mar 16, 2006 17:28:02 GMT -5
 I have big boobs,a HUGE ass you will go far... me, I'm typically asian but definitely taller and slightly bigger than most vietnamese. Same with my sister.
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