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Post by Aiko on Mar 16, 2006 18:19:17 GMT -5
^ If people didn't take discussions seriously then you ought to say the same thing to Y2j and Vestirse because I obviously upset them with a post on EA families. You want all posters to agree? This is what makes these discussions interesting, not that we all have one blanket opinion. And check yourself on the wide ass comment. You said your slavic-middle eastern genes made you different from pigeon toed Asian girls. What a f**kedup thing to say. You let white people hear that stuff about asians then you are perpetuating a stereotype. I hope you keep that kind of thing in your vain little head. It's kind of hard to say for me. I'm close to being full Asian but the Slavic and middle eastern genes in the family always made us a bit different from your average Asians. All the women from my dad's side of the family have great bodies. They're very slender but curvy or just very curvy... I guess a combo of both Asian and non-Asian traits. The legs, are, however, very non-Asian. We have very long and proportionate and straight legs, whereas a lot of Asians esp. girls seem lean towards the pigeon-toed side of the scale. I'm not thin at all. I'm very meaty. I have a very curvy behind... erm yeah. But I got the short genes. Dad's like 5'10 and mom's 5'6" but I'm only 5'3" (T_T) This is me  I fail to see what I said was wrong. I was raised in Asia and grew up among over 90% Asians there and I was just stating my own observations. If you disagree, fine. How am I vain for stating my observations? You make it sound as if I said ALL Asian girls stand pigeon toed. I lived in Japan for a while and if you've been there before, you'd know exactly what I'm talking about. And how am I letting white people hear this kind of stuff? FYI, I don't go around telling white people stereotypes of Asians. You think I do that? Somebody needs to have her head checked. I only say this sort of stuff on EAN because most of us are mixed here. And you sure are a really angry person. Y2J and Vestirse responded to you because you started ranting about how people in this thread are racists and are white washed blah blah. We're not stupid. We know stereotypes of Asians don't apply to every Asian. But is it wrong for us to judge our own bodies based on our observations? How many Asians over 6'" do you see everyday? How many Asian girls with natural size D's do you see everyday? And don't tell me they're the majority where you live. I've seen enough Asians to know that the average height for an Asian man is not over 5'8" and I know the average cupsize for Asian women is not size D. I didn't know it was Eurasians' jobs to cling onto their Asian side and credit every trait the society considers to be positive to our Asian side. Aren't we suppose to be fair? We judged ourselves, not you. Why are you so offended? We're suppose to stfu while you insult and make assumptions about us? It's quite offensive for a stranger tell me that I have racist ideas "in [my vain little head" as if she can see through everybody. Don't assume anything about me because you don't know me and I won't assume anything about you either. |
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Post by lauraroslin on Mar 16, 2006 19:09:01 GMT -5
^ The average cup size for a white woman isn't D either unless they are bought...nor do I see tons of 6 ft white woman wandering my city. I did not say asians/ea's were white washed but what I am noticing is that many Ea's are implying that coveted traits they want or inherited are from their white side.
Whites= big ass?
Please. Tell that to black and hispanic girls. They have a very different perception of white girls. If this is the truth and the many Eas' on this board who pretend to complain about their big butts(yet we all know how proud you all really are of this "white trait") inherited from their white side, then full asian girls must have no butts at all since the sterotype for white women is to have no ass.
Yet we all know this is false.
You grew up in asia and you saw lots of skinny pigeon toed girls. It's probably due to diet.
Most Asian AMERICAN girls I know are getting taller and wider(not such a good thing I suppose) Most of the Full blooded Asian girls in the states are taller than I am and I am half.
This is probably due to diet and lifestyle.
THe norm for breast size is actually a B cup. I think it's 36 to 38 B, that's white women included.
If anything you girls can skip giving praise to your white or asian side for that matter and thank the manufacturers of milk and meat for adding all those hormones that ar making us bigger than our own mothers and causing young girls to enter puberty much younger than they ever were before.
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Post by muzo on Mar 16, 2006 22:55:41 GMT -5
^ most tibetans that grew up during the cultural revolution are shorter than their parents generations
so it is also nutrition and lifestyle, maybe also psychological traumas etc that influence all different kinds of physical stuff.
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Post by y2j on Mar 17, 2006 9:26:54 GMT -5
Vestirse and Y2j, so fast to pin me as the bigot. Because let's face it- my post in the Ea family was an in your face type post. Well, you make it so easy with your ignorant comments. Oh yeah, way to go 'keeping it real!' You've simply spouted off some unoriginal, repetitive part-truths. And I have made it clear to you that what you have said has only a small bearing on one single reason for interracial couples to be together. You claimed this as a whole truth, and I simply wanted to clarify that your post was very much bigoted in the sense that it made enormous generalisations regarding not only white males and asian females but IR couples in general. Wheras there is racism in this thread, subtle but there. Yet you both turn a blind eye to it. Good for you that you can find a post like mine in the family thread that you both can rush and point fingers and cry racist, yet this whole thread reeks of it. Where are your cries? Or do you both deny that it is an underlying theme here as well? Well seeing as you're quick to point out your 'inyaface' method of posting, shouldn't you rather praise us for challenging you? It may not be the subtle things, because those kinds of things can be overlooked and even in some instances be given the benefit of the doubt. Poltical correctness is an ugly thing, but there has to be some kind of balance. I look at what you say and the allusions are simply obvious (hence the 'in your face') - I strongly disagree with your views, I am certainly allowed to say so. I think your views of the WM/AF couple is extremely narrow minded and shows both a lack of (any) forethought and no real effort to even try to look at things from another perspective. Maybe it's just easier for you both to go pick the obvious. Racism isn't always in your face. Sad when the children of interracial relationships themselves prepetuate the stereotypes. Okay, this makes absolutely no sense. On what basis are you making this claim? You certainly do not know me well enough to make that claim against me. Newsflash for all you Ea girls who brag about your big butts and hips from your white side.... Black girls and hispanic girls have a stereotype that white girls have flat asses. So why are you giving so much credit to your white side for? You're certainly quick to criticise anything positive about 'white' assets or people. Certainly, I get the impression that you have strong insecurities regarding whites. But we all know that many white girls do have ample assets and that myth in the black and hispanic community about white girls with flat butts is a lie. When I've been mistaken for being Hispanic I had a girl tell me I was so lucky that I had latina hips. One of my friends who knows I am half asian is always telling me to eat more so that I don't have such a flat ass. Again? Which one is it? It's perception! I'm not arguing that at all. I was only commenting on this sudden change from being so narrowminded to say such things about AF/WM couplings and this sudden 180 of destroying racial stereotypes. I find your hypocrisy hilariously unfortunate. |
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Post by Seraph on Mar 17, 2006 11:02:14 GMT -5
Seraph... why don't you just say that "Eurasians are not just Asians"  That discussion has been covered long ago here. I got the feeling was that some EA's felt they were being shunned by the Asian community for being not fully Asian. My sig is a message of inclusion, that I, an Asian, and other Asians do and should welcome EA's as Asian also. At the time, I believe the feeling from the posters here was that my message was not common coming from an Asian and was a welcome change. (And for the record I have many EA (and XA) cousins, relatives and friends.) P.S. Sig modified. I said I probably got my height (above German average) from my Asian side, but I also think it's a combination of Asian long torso/back and not so short Euro legs (now kill me for that statement). Ah by the way 'statement'... Seraph... Why don't I just say I got mixed genes from my dad's and my mom's side? First my dad is Euro and my mom is Asian. Kyu-ree, your example above is indeed rife with racist generalizations. Seriously, even if you quoted anti-stereotypes, you credit these attributes to race and not your individual mother and father's characteristics. Don't you think that your mother and father's individual genetics outweighs the supposed effect of "race genetics?" That's the whole problem with this thread. Just like IR relationships should not get a free pass on racism, neither should EA's using racist stereotypes to describe themselves. It just perpetuates the ignorance. |
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Post by Seraph on Mar 17, 2006 11:20:48 GMT -5
Chill out. Don't take online discussions so seriously. Plus, people are just making assumptions here. Nobody said "I HAVE A BIG WIDE ASS SO THAT MUST, AND I REPEAT, MUST HAVE COME FROM MY WHITE SIDE. IT'S A SCIENTIFIC FACT. END OF STORY." Aiko, racism is serious business. Otherwise, why would so many EAs, in almost every self analytical post seem to be obsessed with distinctions pitting their Asian vs. White halves. Racism isn't simply Nazi-style hate. To too many people in the white majority, that's their only definition of racism. Racism has many levels and can be subtle. In many cases, it's more nefarious in that way. Seriously, your response to criticism of racist stereotypes is no different than that sounded off by many monoracial white racists. Chill out! Don't be so serious. You need a thicker skin, etc. I'm sure you've experienced that before yet you turn around and use it here. Sorry, but it's lame to minimize racism. |
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Post by Aiko on Mar 17, 2006 12:41:13 GMT -5
^What? This is such a disgrace. You're twisting my words. I never said racism is not serious business and you need a thicker skin. How did I respond to criticism of racist stereotypes? So now I sound like a monoracial white racist? Wouldn't that make you a racist too? How come you didn't say I'm a monoracial Asian racist? This IS an online community and people may come off differerently whether they meant it or not. Why are you so quick to judge that everyone who participated in this thread was being a racist? Maybe they nonchalantly said something probably based off on their observation like "my Vietnamese mother and her family are very petite and thin and my white dad and his family is tall and buff so I probably got the tall and buff genes from my dad." I fail to see how that's racist. Thank you for stating the obvious like I didn't know white is the majority and racism come in different levels. The last thing I need is a full blood to tell me what racism is and that I need to take it seriously. You think I haven't experienced blatant racism? You think I'm not angry and hurt from bad experiences? This is so funny. What's your role in EAN anyways? As the Asian deligate to the Eurasian community? I'm sorry but that's really lame.
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Post by Seraph on Mar 17, 2006 14:59:42 GMT -5
^What? This is such a disgrace. You're twisting my words. I never said racism is not serious business and you need a thicker skin. You didn't need to say racism is not serious business verbatim, you clearly implied it by telling Eowyn to chill out, don't take online discussions so seriously, you are just making assumptions here. In short, you told her that the racism she sees is her problem, its all in her head. Yes, I'm pretty sure I've had many whites tell me and other minorities that. Can you tell me by what logic you came to that conclusion  Again, by what logic did that question come from? Because there are two pages full of racial stereotypes before I posted. It becomes racist when they stereotype some attribute to a race. Just like you did: It's kind of hard to say for me. I'm close to being full Asian but the Slavic and middle eastern genes in the family always made us a bit different from your average Asians. All the women from my dad's side of the family have great bodies. They're very slender but curvy or just very curvy... I guess a combo of both Asian and non-Asian traits. The legs, are, however, very non-Asian. We have very long and proportionate and straight legs, whereas a lot of Asians esp. girls seem lean towards the pigeon-toed side of the scale. I'm not thin at all. I'm very meaty. I have a very curvy behind... erm yeah. But I got the short genes. Dad's like 5'10 and mom's 5'6" but I'm only 5'3" (T_T) FYI, it's no defence that you didn't use "ALL." The definition of stereotype is met simply by a: A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image.You're welcome, its apparent you needed to be educated that stereotyping is racism. So do you need a half blood to tell you what racism is? Because you aren't listening to them either nor appear to have learned anything from your bad experiences. Wait a second! Let me read this part again. OMG, Aiko is singling me out for being a monoracial Asian now! And Aiko equates being Asian with being lame! Racist! Does everyone see the irony, all that ire and yet Aiko finishes her post by being a textbook racist. Who's truly lame now? So Aiko, would you like to start over? I'll accept your apology and acknowledge you're not truly racist and I will introduce myself again. I'm not angry and its always better to work things out. Hi, I am Seraph, a monoracial Asian who has pledged to fight all forms of racism. I have compiled and published statistics on Asian and Part-Asian Americans on my website for the benefit of the Asian American community of which I believe Eurasians are full members of. I authored the Asian American Constitution that pledges: We are determined to save succeeding generations of Asian Americans from the scourge of racism and bigotry and secure their future as full and equal members of American society. |
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Post by ConceptDesign on Mar 17, 2006 15:41:29 GMT -5
Here's another myth.Black=big butt. Latina = Big butt. And I suppose you're going to try and convince us that the hotness of Orion dancing girls is a myth too or that not all klingons are big, muscular and have bad breath? |
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Post by Aiko on Mar 17, 2006 20:43:48 GMT -5
Hahaha Seraph you're really funny and I don't mean it in a sarcastic way lol. If you have the balls, go around start acting in the real life like you did with me. I'm just defending myself because you're blatantly telling that I'm a racist but it's okay, I've been called many things and you're not really pissing me off because your logic makes no sense whatsoever lol. I'm sorry but I can't be serious with you right now but what I think is that I think you're just some fetishist with the hope of finding some Eurasian net girlfriend. You don't have to admit it. I know, it's okay. I've seen plenty of your kind and I forgive you (^_^)
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Post by y2j on Mar 18, 2006 2:48:14 GMT -5
I would just ignore Seraph, Aiko.
He's seriously so insecure about himself he has launched his own self righteous crusade to rescue all the 'whitewashed Eurasian children' by pointing out the flaws of the racist 'white devils' (my God that's irony). It says so in his post, we're considered asian according to him, but when we say something about asians he doesn't agree with we're no longer asian and are now white-washed racists.
And to make him look even more insecure he attacks you, an asian girl (Chinese/Japanese if I am not mistaken) and calls her racist about comments regarding asians (does anyone else see how f***ed up that is?).
I'm sure if we were saying negative things about white people, he wouldn't say a thing. Seraph, if you're offended, you have the option to leave. Seriously, spare us your hypocrisy.
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Post by penguinopolipitese on Mar 18, 2006 18:01:39 GMT -5
^yeah,... what she said to infinity+1.  |
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Post by Seraph on Mar 19, 2006 1:25:06 GMT -5
I want everybody to stop fighting w/ each other now, please.
We have understood that certain members think this whole thread is racist but that is not the point of this thread and I don't see anything really harmful about it, so please end the discussion. As you wish I'll take this to another thread. But I am truly disappointed you see this as "harmless" racism. Laura Roslin and Vestirse can see the harmfulness of racial stereotypes. Here's the new thread: Why are EAs so Racist?It would be nice to have a reasoned discussion on why you think racial stereotyping is harmless. Please. |
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Post by somegirl on Mar 19, 2006 1:59:47 GMT -5
asian.
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Post by scott on Mar 19, 2006 9:33:57 GMT -5
Face: I get told a lot that if I didn't say anything , most people would assume that I am asian. Personally , I find myself more asian with white features.
Body: I am preety big, but most definetly white
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