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Post by straylight on Nov 25, 2008 1:26:51 GMT -5
he's a good role model in general. just for being so cool and not easily baited. "no drama obama". i would love to be more like that.
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Post by cm on Nov 25, 2008 10:59:34 GMT -5
So I was reading about Obama and his impact as the new president, they highlight his mixedness. After reading it I'm now wondering if he really is an asset to our community as a whole? Others on here are dabbling over the "mutts like me" comment he made and how the media insists on labeling him as black. I really have to wonder if it's just him not doing enough (IE: I want to be identified as mulatto or mixed....much in the same way Tiger made it clear he wanted to be caublinasian) or if there is some sort of secret agenda by monoracials. Thoughts? Do you feel Obama is a good role model? If not why so? Who is a good model? A more whitewashed EA who hates their ethnic side? Or a mixed person whose career is simply looking beautiful in front of a camera? This man is not only a good role model, but the BEST mixed role model you can possibly have. Community organizer Harvard Law graduate Assemblyman Senator President This man has REAL accomplishments that separate him from his race. That is our goal is to be treated as equal. Who can be a better role model? All those f**king EA porn stars and super models? You're just mad because he's not white washed enough? Because he actually has the nerve to accept his Black side, marry a Black woman, and have many black friends? While EAners parade around, pretending to be multi-cultural, with their all white entourage, while the city they live in is mostly Asian? I'm happy that we finally have a mixed person exhibiting intelligence and leadership, who doesn't bail out of his minority side just because that side faces more discrimination than his white side, which would be easier to embrace.
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Post by EA Observer on Nov 25, 2008 13:23:04 GMT -5
We hope for the best from Obama as a new president, as we obviously need it, but it remains to be seen. If he is effective, it will be a reminder that many potentially able non-white or female people were systematically locked out of the opportunity to lead America by racism and sexism that have been practiced against the principle of equality.
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Post by betahat on Nov 25, 2008 13:51:59 GMT -5
He's certainly a role model for left-leaning megalomaniacs like me.
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Post by straylight on Nov 25, 2008 15:59:57 GMT -5
but that's the thing, he's not a megalomaniac! doesn't even get excited.. and looks for consensus. howard dean would be the megalomaniac
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Post by avax on Nov 25, 2008 19:07:40 GMT -5
He has bigger problems than prancing to the tune of racial vanity.
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Post by straylight on Nov 26, 2008 22:21:05 GMT -5
When did Tiger Woods not embrace his white side? He calls himself a "Cablinasian" [Caucasian, Black, (American) Indian, and Asian] or something right? Sounds like he put a lot thought into it.
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Post by cm on Nov 26, 2008 23:39:16 GMT -5
Why are you assuming so much on the OP? How about you start talking about Tiger Woods then, he is just as accomplished as Obama if not more in any way. You speak of Obama embracing his black side, well how about he do a little more to embrace his white side too? You can't treat one bette over the other...besides where the hell did EA porn starts get into this. And if you read the article they also mention his mixedness..obviously that site isn't biased. Are you? Who is a good model? A more whitewashed EA who hates their ethnic side? Or a mixed person whose career is simply looking beautiful in front of a camera? This man is not only a good role model, but the BEST mixed role model you can possibly have. Community organizer Harvard Law graduate Assemblyman Senator President This man has REAL accomplishments that separate him from his race. That is our goal is to be treated as equal. Who can be a better role model? All those f**king EA porn stars and super models? You're just mad because he's not white washed enough? Because he actually has the nerve to accept his Black side, marry a Black woman, and have many black friends? While EAners parade around, pretending to be multi-cultural, with their all white entourage, while the city they live in is mostly Asian? I'm happy that we finally have a mixed person exhibiting intelligence and leadership, who doesn't bail out of his minority side just because that side faces more discrimination than his white side, which would be easier to embrace. You want to compare Tiger Woods, a GOLFER, to our President? Be my guest. A foolish comparison at best. Regardless of what Tiger says about his race, he's viewed as a Black man in a white sport. Obama understands he's viewed as black. He also understands that the Black community helped him get there. The African American community is completely different from the Asian community. Many blacks are mixed with European ancestry, but they are united by the way they have been treated due to their phenotype. Maybe it's time EA's stop pretending that we get treated like whites, because we're obviously seen as Asian in the USA.
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Post by straylight on Nov 27, 2008 1:28:05 GMT -5
is that the case though? i'm not always obviously seen as asian. i mean, i thought that was the whole point of being EA. that we confuse people? now we're viewed like other asians, and get treated like them? since when? i've only had a handful of slights.. i hate them, don't get me wrong.. but i don't think it's the same as being a pure minority. just the fact that i see people being racist to asians right in front of my eyes tells me that it isn't that simple.
i wouldn't even compare my experience with those who are half black. one reason why they get mistaken as black is simply an issue with color and hair. their skintone and hair is almost entirely borrowed from the black side - therefore ignorant people out there will categorize them automatically. in most EA's cases though, we're not even that dark. hell, some of us are whiter than some whites. it makes it harder for people to just say "you're that" or "you're this" like they would a half black person.
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Post by Altan on Nov 27, 2008 1:32:03 GMT -5
Tribe is Tribe and he is Black......at least he came to the knowledge and said to himself my community and Tribe is,"Black." For he is coming from the Judeo-Christian traditiion which determines our racial heritage in America.
It all goes back to the Old Testament or the Torah for racial classifications here in America. We were built by fanatics and racial classifications is what built our country or who was permissible and who was on the outside of racial permission and civility.
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Post by loloduffs on Nov 27, 2008 2:48:34 GMT -5
AMEN TO THAT STRAY ;D is that the case though? i'm not always obviously seen as asian. i mean, i thought that was the whole point of being EA. that we confuse people? now we're viewed like other asians, and get treated like them? since when? i've only had a handful of slights.. i hate them, don't get me wrong.. but i don't think it's the same as being a pure minority. just the fact that i see people being racist to asians right in front of my eyes tells me that it isn't that simple. i wouldn't even compare my experience with those who are half black. one reason why they get mistaken as black is simply an issue with color and hair. their skintone and hair is almost entirely borrowed from the black side - therefore ignorant people out there will categorize them automatically. in most EA's cases though, we're not even that dark. hell, some of us are whiter than some whites. it makes it harder for people to just say "you're that" or "you're this" like they would a half black person.
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Post by Altan on Nov 27, 2008 2:56:23 GMT -5
Blacks have Asian eyes and so do Whites....what has shaped us is the culture that makes and recognizes this.
Will Tiger's kids identify with Asian ....I doubt it, only if it is lucrative....they will probably go Black. It's more exciting and rebellious. Will Obama's kids go with Black....Yes they are?
Blacks are pretty mixed and they know this....but they know they are Black.
The Tribe of Africa and the Tribe of Hamitic Peoples. Nothing wrong with that it's just African American History 101 or 125 0r 126.
If there will be a racially blind society well than you have got to get rid of the whole Eastern and Western faith-based societies...and that would be a hard sell.
I would really like if all of humanity is blind.....but we aren't. Many people have differences because of Nature and Nuture and that what makes humanity special and adaptable to their environment.
Oh yeaaaaah I was with some Africans in the past...and I'm a Eurasian Caucasian and we were in a car and they were scaring Asians...with violence....calling them all kinds of racial names and such. I just laughed it off...like one of the "brothers."
Were they ignorant scaring Asian people....yes because they were differen't immigrants from their African heritage...but it was these differences that made a world of differences.
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Post by 2bob on Nov 27, 2008 4:29:18 GMT -5
hahaha at whoever said "one - dropist".
Ok im pretty sure that there's bigger problems in the world than being mixed race. Its like you guys want him to talk about his mixed heritage during every speech he gives! He has aknowledged the fact that he's of mixed race, everyone knows he's of mixed race, how much more do you people want him to talk about it! I look up to him, but not becuase of his mixed parentage that would be dumb. I look up to him becuase he's smart.
end of rant
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Post by meep on Nov 27, 2008 7:21:51 GMT -5
^ Thank god for that rant.
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Post by Paddy on Nov 27, 2008 8:29:30 GMT -5
No one doubts that the big guy has bigger problems on his plate than reconciling his racial heritage with public.
But at the same, it was race that brought us to EAN in the first place. There is nothing wrong with discussing race here. Nor do I believe that it is necessarily unhealthy.
And with his off-hand reference to himself as a mutt, Obama is showing that the issue of race isn't one that sits heavily with him. In this respect, he is a great role model.
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