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Post by thekrez on Aug 9, 2007 17:52:40 GMT -5
Certain female members of this site feel the male members need assistance in obtaining females.
After my wildly successful thread on how to keep a man, which I know you all took copious notes on, I suggest here for you to express your advice.
Im of the firm opinion you should never listen to a female for advice on females, as they confuse things, you need the advice of a successful male.
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Post by penguinopolipitese on Aug 9, 2007 18:46:43 GMT -5
you need the advice of a successful male. well I'm out.
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Post by 0 on Aug 9, 2007 19:06:07 GMT -5
So we are to believe that female members here communicated WITH YOU about the need for males here to be informed? Now were these Indian females? LOL '
Alright - let's dust off the play book (and truth be told, there are a few here that could use the help)
The first problem is that many men simply have a hard time dealing with the concept that they didn't click with someone and will "need" to make it work instead of just letting it go. If there is no chemistry then cut your losses and don't dwell on a "what if". Waste of time and self-esteem killer to focus on someone who isn't digging you.
Next- don't try to impress. Don't babble about things in the hope they will make you look cool and score points. Don't try to pretend to like things you don't so she'll like you. You think something sucks then say so. She''l appreciate your honesty, backbone and individuality.
Don't be a dick. Be courteous, be pleasant and never rude. Dont be a bigshot or condescending to waiters or pushy.
Show some interest in what she has to say. Listen and don't be distracted by your own thoughts or other girls walking past. If she isn't interesting then why are you there? To get laid? Eh, there's plenty of girls just looking for that ( even online , or so I hear) so why do somersaults trying to convince those that aren't easy to give it up?
If she is feeling passionate towards you then hold back - dont rush in junior. Sure, we know its the first pair you've seen up close but take your time. Let her know that you're a nice guy and willing to wait - that will make her hotter. Nothing better than a preheated skillet ready for the meat.
Be relaxed. When you speak say it like you mean it and believe it, not quivering like some neurotic pansy. She isn't ovulating for Woody Allen or Napoleon Dynamite - she wants a man. Find your inner "Y" and use it.
Be confident - be comfortable with who you are and what you are doing, and have an idea of where you are going. If you don't know then say you are exploring but not a dimwit without a clue.
When it comes to making a decision then do so - don't think you'll appear nice or well mannered by not expressing a preference - you'll just look like a guy who doesnt have an opinion or identity. You dont like Sushi then say so - don't say " I dont care" . Wishy washy and spinelss isnt getting any second dates, unless she's rebounding or killing time, perhaps for a free meal.
If she talks on the phone during the time you are with her then cut your losses - if she isn't all the way there on a first date it will only get worse the next one. If she sees you can be treated like a doormat then she will and you will be the chump always paying and never playing.
So...relax, enjoy it and stop worrying about what you are going to say or do a millon times before and after you do it. If it doesnt work out so what - Is there some female shortage I'm not aware of?
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Post by daisypukes on Aug 9, 2007 23:30:21 GMT -5
Meh, I think women can give good advice on this too, as long as they're honest about it. And also, I know what's worked for me, so I'm going to disregard that "women don't give good advice" comment and just give some. Okay, it's really easy to get a woman, it's not so easy to keep one though. Women can be just as fickle as men. So when it comes to wanting to be with a particular woman for an extended period of time there are some obvious do's and don't's. Seems like creole's already covered it pretty well but I'll just reiterate a bit because I feel like it: 1. Don't talk about yourself too much. It's arrogant and, although arrogance may initially attract a woman, after she gets to know you and the excitement of being with a new guy who is an arrogant type wears off: you're just going to end up boring her. 2. Goes hand in hand with the above suggestion: listen to HER. I know that sounds really obvious but men often suck at this. Don't just sit there and blankly listen either, give her feedback. Seem involved but let her do the majority of the talking. Honestly, women love to talk about themselves as much (arguably more) than men love to talk about themselves. So be an open ear with a brain connected. 3. Don't be overbearing or confining. If you're too jealous and possessive you'll make her feel stifled. Minor jealousy on occasion can be appealing to a woman, it makes us feel appreciated and we think it's cute. If you are doing it in an overboard way though, it makes us feel like you don't trust us or that you don't think of us as independent enough to govern our own lives. 4. DON'T check out other women in front of us. Most women find that incredibly rude and most women don't check out other men in front of their mates or prospective mates so why should you get a free pass to do it to us? It's disrespectful and makes us question whether you're even worth it. 5. Be commanding, take some control here and there, for some reason that's attractive. But at the same time you also can't take complete control all the time, because that will lead to her feeling that you don't respect her opinions. It's a delicate balance that should be exercised to the particular needs of the woman, which requires you reading her for what she specifically wants. Obviously, all women are different, so in a way giving advice about this is somewhat ridiculous since there is no blanket right way to do anything. 6. Don't try to make your move too soon, even if she seems receptive, because if you wait a little bit longer and make her question herself she'll become more attracted to you. For whatever reason, we want what we can't have. If you play cool and don't rush things we'll wonder why you aren't rushing things and whether or not you're even attracted to us. And for a lot of women that reads as a challenge. That's all I can come up with off the top of my head.
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Post by daisypukes on Aug 10, 2007 1:22:29 GMT -5
Well, there are always mixed signals, and sometimes (this is true for men, too, actually) people don't want to admit what they really want (even to themselves) because they find it embarrassing. They just pretend to want what they think they're supposed to want. I think everyone's guilty of that to some degree.
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Post by daisypukes on Aug 10, 2007 1:45:44 GMT -5
Oh, definitely, no guy would get any play if he went around telling women what he REALLY wants. I think also, men can be really misguided by other men about how to get a woman though. This idea that seems so prevalent among men, that women want a "bad boy" is really detrimental to gender relations, IMO. Women (or at least I) don't want a bad boy. Nor do we want a good boy. We don't want some f***ing caricature, we want someone who is real. Someone who is mean sometimes and nice other times and has some damn depth. The bad boy appeal might work for a time, and if all you're after (which, actually, is all what a lot men are after, I suppose) is to get laid, then sure it'll work. But if you end up really wanting a relationship with a woman to work out, then it's not going to get you far. Everyone puts on their "best face" in the beginning, or tries to impress the other person, etc, but some people take it too far. They put on an act in the beginning and then when the real them comes out the other person gets hugely disappointed. And then the other person gets resentful because they've basically become emotionally invested in a lie.
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Post by thekrez on Aug 10, 2007 1:50:05 GMT -5
No ones mentioned getting her riotously drunk?
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Post by thekrez on Aug 10, 2007 2:03:00 GMT -5
holding a girls hair while she spews is one of the purest forms of love in this world.
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Post by daisypukes on Aug 10, 2007 2:04:36 GMT -5
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Post by daisypukes on Aug 10, 2007 2:17:54 GMT -5
LMAO! That reminds me of this one guy I knew a couple years ago or so that I would just scam into buying me s***, and he'd constantly be trying to get me drunk and I'd always be saying: "No, I don't feel like it, I quit drinking" even though that wasn't true at the time. Basically I was just trying to keep my wits about me because I didn't trust him.
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Post by daisypukes on Aug 10, 2007 2:23:22 GMT -5
Possibly...or else she was on the wagon for real...who knows...
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Post by jenming on Aug 10, 2007 2:25:36 GMT -5
how to get a woman:
it starts by getting off the computer, i'm pretty sure.
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Post by daisypukes on Aug 10, 2007 2:30:43 GMT -5
You're forgetting about cybersex, clearly...you can virtually get a woman much easier than actually get one...
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Post by daisypukes on Aug 10, 2007 2:35:37 GMT -5
Hmmm, true that. But then one has to ask the question: "If a tree gets cut down in the woods and no one is there to hear it fall except the person cutting it down who you thought was a woman but who is really a man then are you actually gay?"
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Post by daisypukes on Aug 10, 2007 2:45:32 GMT -5
Actually, come to think of it, I don't think women cyber at all. I think it must just be a bunch of horny guys, some pretending to be women, getting wood off each other...I can't imagine a woman actually cybering. Maybe a bored housewife I guess.
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