zazi
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Post by zazi on Nov 21, 2005 9:56:50 GMT -5
I LOVE graffiti.... I so love graffiti... It's just so NOW... and so alive.... canvas is just a thing of the past in many ways... when i eventually have my own place i want the walls unpainted... just grey concrete and some really nice graffiti... not too loud... but just graffiti on concrete.... i also like stuff by aubrey beardsley and erte and edward hopper... but graffiti kicks ass over them! |
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Post by penguinopolipitese on Nov 21, 2005 20:50:18 GMT -5
really love da vinci's sketches   |
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Post by 2ndaliasj on Nov 23, 2005 7:28:40 GMT -5
www.lost.art.br/osgemeos_01.htmOS GEMEOS (brazilian graf writers, twins, with thier own style of graf), can't post images from this site, navigate using the tiny thumbnails at the bottom of the screen.
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Post by cel2 on Nov 23, 2005 17:37:27 GMT -5
i agree with the earlier posts that Frida Kahlo's art is psychotic. To bad, she had the talent to paint but she didn't have the right messages to convey in her work. I like Frieda Kahlo. It doesn't hide from the pain or the blood. She had a tough life - major accident, idiot husband, many miscarriages. Her work screams isolation. The suicide painting can be interpreted as creepy, or touching. I think she might have dealth with her pain through her work. She perhaps (?) dealt with the death of her friend the only way she knew best. In any case, her works are immortalized. Typical for people to shy away from a woman with a unibrow and mustache, eh? She's actually quite pretty in her photos. I don't blame the guys for thinking her work is disgusting or her portraits. A lot of it is removed, detached, and a world away from traditional femininity. |
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Post by garcia on Nov 23, 2005 17:42:13 GMT -5
I love frida kahlo, I dont see how her art 'didn't have the right message'.
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Post by hapalicious on Nov 24, 2005 12:55:33 GMT -5
i understand why a lot of people actually find her art repulsive....but as concerns me, what she painted says a lot, and even if the message she intended to communicate is pretty shocking i still find that it translates very well through painting and its way better than some contemporary artists smearing their canvas w/ vomit ....as controversial as her art is, at least it s art and if some people hate it, it s a good thing for her : it actually means they understood her ....even if they hated what it is they understood...
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wilyam
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Post by wilyam on Nov 25, 2005 16:00:29 GMT -5
hmmm...i'l give Kahlo credit for her talent and "shock value" in her work but, for me it doesn't remove the fact that most of her work can be disturbing.
true, she went through a lot in her life but, i believe if she had lived longer she would have changed her style and made more appealing work. given that troubles in our lives tend to be stages, her work symbolizes just a stage in her life.
she found inspiration in her pain as a means to paint. other painters meanwhile, find the silver lining in their problems as the inspiration to paint. to me thats a big difference.
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Post by cel2 on Nov 26, 2005 19:00:15 GMT -5
hmmm...i'l give Kahlo credit for her talent and "shock value" in her work but, for me it doesn't remove the fact that most of her work can be disturbing. true, she went through a lot in her life but, i believe if she had lived longer she would have changed her style and made more appealing work. given that troubles in our lives tend to be stages, her work symbolizes just a stage in her life. she found inspiration in her pain as a means to paint. other painters meanwhile, find the silver lining in their problems as the inspiration to paint. to me thats a big difference. So in other words you prefer to avoid the artists who whine via their work? I understand what you mean about the appeal, and shock value can be plain boring after awhile. Maybe she might have been a stronger artists if her work was more varied. Though painting silver linings can be inspirational, I don't think I would prefer a collection of them solely. Sort of like movie-goers or readers, I suppose. There are those who go only after they're sure that it has a "happy ending". Though I like to think that the dialogue between artist and audience is mutably two-way and transcends fixed ideas about positive or negative. The artist may have been painting a silver lining, but the audience missed it completely. Or they may not, and the audience interpreted it as a silver lining. Blood, death, suicide.. and arteries strung out like lines to hold out laundry seem to be strong cases for psychosis and shock value, but it only makes me wonder more about how much we've been institutionalized (amongst decent, happy society) to interpret that pretty = good, or ugly = bad. |
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Post by cel2 on Nov 27, 2005 11:46:26 GMT -5
OK. Enough talk. Dialogue this.  The Temple of Monkey Sh!t |
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Saru
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Post by Saru on Nov 27, 2005 11:51:30 GMT -5
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Post by cel2 on Nov 27, 2005 12:09:21 GMT -5
Haha.. thanks, Richard! I wouldn't have dared put that in a baking thread if there was one. I cheated anyway..  The santa jube jubes look like gorillas.. |
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Post by Evan on Nov 28, 2005 0:54:24 GMT -5
Don't let the picture fool you, guys, it's apparently edible.  |
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Post by cel2 on Nov 28, 2005 23:27:47 GMT -5
I saved a piece for you. Eat up!
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wilyam
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Post by wilyam on Nov 29, 2005 14:34:25 GMT -5
So in other words you prefer to avoid the artists who whine via their work? since you put it that way, the answer is yes. however, there is a difference between whining and grieving. Whining would be more of a selfish effort to complain while, grieving is a more uninhibited, selfless expression of pain. a grieving artist i appreciate and not the whining one. to judge which one was Frida Kahlo though is not up to me. interpreting art is really a subjective effort influenced also by the sign of the times. who knows, Kahlo's art may just be too ahead of the times. |
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Post by garcia on Nov 29, 2005 15:47:28 GMT -5
I was going to reply to this before, but cel kind of covered my point. I get where wilyam is coming from, its a matter of taste.
Art reflects life, In all its forms. Pain is part of the human condition, the way she chooses to express herself isn't pretty, but it dosen't have to be.
I think there can be a positive message from kahlo's work, unlike, for example trevor brown (posted upthread) her work is not disturbing for the sake of being disturbing (FYI, hes one of a few independant artists producing similar work, with the stated intention). She draws your attention, even if you don't like what she is saying. There is a message and a non-conventional bueaty.
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Love it!! 
The santa jube jubes look like gorillas..
