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Post by Paddy on Nov 13, 2008 17:53:22 GMT -5
"And we made a semi-solemn compact, that both of us would remain pure, not like the others. "That's the most important, for us Eurasians," said Fredi. "You know, they all look down on us, the others, the whites and the Chinese too, say we're just good for sleeping with, girls and boys...I want to be different. I want to prove myself." And it was true, even I knew that. That as Eurasians we were expected to be just for sleeping with, and that whatever we did people always brought that up. Sex was supposed to be our availability, and if a Eurasian was seen out with a boy, everybody assumed she slept with him and immediately that she was available to anyone and everyone. It was different for the white, they could do what they liked, get drunk, beat people, smash things, sleep with anyone, no one said anything..."
This is a quotation from a book called 'A Mortal Flower' (1966) by Han Suyin, a Belgian Chinese author. The book is autobiographical and this quotation was set in the 1930s Beijing where she grew up.
The quotation continues, but this much already illustrates much. Though it must be realised that attitudes towards Eurasians have changed a great deal since this was written, I'd like to know what you think about these sentiments. Do they ring true to any extent these days?What does this quotation evoke in you?
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Post by straylight on Nov 13, 2008 21:37:32 GMT -5
That was written 66? Wow...
Well I feel like I'm kicked back and forth between exhausting dead ends, and being bed buddies with people who don't care (or need) to have relationships -- especially married or taken women, trying to get me on the side. I never thought it had anything to do with being Eurasian (uh, that would seriously suck). All in all though, I believe that I'm not taking seriously enough. It's frustrating.
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Post by ~MangO_O~ on Nov 14, 2008 20:06:53 GMT -5
Wow I find this quite interesting! To think eurasians in beijing at one time were considered easy target! What a long way we have come, because Eurasians these days are mostly considered as "hard" targets: you can fantasize about it, but you aren't getting any that easy.
But I don't know if this view held the same for Eurasian men at the time, I have a hard time picturing a 30s setting where women would look for easy preys in Eurasian men. Even today there is an obvious inequality towards women in asia, something that existed with westerners in those days but that has since been mended (not perfectly but we're getting there)
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Post by Altan on Nov 15, 2008 4:45:48 GMT -5
Sounds like Colonial China Meditations. An era so long ago.
But so full in intrigue and complicated.
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Post by EA Observer on Nov 15, 2008 11:42:20 GMT -5
Perhaps not as overt, but it probably still is.
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Post by Altan on Nov 15, 2008 15:52:37 GMT -5
^ Good point.
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Post by dannyd on Nov 16, 2008 2:14:57 GMT -5
I'm for sleeping with.
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Post by cm on Nov 16, 2008 2:25:06 GMT -5
Well, it's not like this stereotype isn't perpetuated. Am I the only one that goes wtf? in the 'cute babies' thread in members section when an EA member goes "Your son will be a heartbreaker when he grows up!"
I mean, seriously? Is that all you can hope for somebody's kid to be is that they can f*** more people than other peoples' kids?
I'd rather have my child be an ugly Noble Laureate than a catamite, but that's just me.
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Post by straylight on Nov 16, 2008 3:59:31 GMT -5
Well, it's not like this stereotype isn't perpetuated. Am I the only one that goes wtf? in the 'cute babies' thread in members section when an EA member goes "Your son will be a heartbreaker when he grows up!" I mean, seriously? Is that all you can hope for somebody's kid to be is that they can f**k more people than other peoples' kids? I'd rather have my child be an ugly Noble Laureate than a catamite, but that's just me. lol, "catamite" |
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Post by quiapo on Nov 16, 2008 20:08:19 GMT -5
Maileña - the link leads to a truncated article; any chance of access to a full text?
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Post by halfbreed on Nov 17, 2008 6:06:01 GMT -5
How things change.
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Post by Phil on Nov 17, 2008 16:35:42 GMT -5
Great post. Reading this, connects me instantly with those EAs of the past. Though I probably have no ansestral ties with them , I completly see them as my people. Hearing about what mixed people had to deal with in the past makes me want to put up a monument for them . For all of us now to think of them and continue make things better for us and the generations to come. Eurasians these days are mostly considered as "hard" targets: you can fantasize about it, but you aren't getting any that easy. Yeah, even I, with my keanuesque charm, can´t win over an EA girls heart. Am I right fellas or what!? |
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Post by Paddy on Nov 17, 2008 17:17:07 GMT -5
Yeah I know what you mean about feeling a connection with EAs of the past. I think we can learn a lot from the experiences of these people. I pity them for the hardships they had to endure, and for the ones that rose to life's challenges, I have nothing but admiration. They are our role-models, and a unique point of reference from which we can draw valuable lessons. They can teach us more about ourselves and being EA than even our parents or families.
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Post by straylight on Nov 18, 2008 7:31:46 GMT -5
where is a good source for learning about them? are there non-fiction/history books or anything?
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Post by wanchai on Nov 18, 2008 10:21:38 GMT -5
Things have changed ? The older you grow, the more you will see it's no big changes for the EAs.  The sociology fundamentals have changed very little. |
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