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Post by long on Dec 4, 2007 21:32:14 GMT -5
Well, it probably would be offensive to me if it wasn't quite as stupid. The law should have nothing to do with religion, separation of church and state, remember? Anyway, Sam, you seriously need to get out and get laid. But I know that might be difficult, since there's no cheap whore in the world cheap enough to take pity on you. - Are you saying I'm still on the top of the sh*t list? Again, it seems to me like you're in denial that he's trying to say something personal about you not political. But I'll be a good boy and stop trying to stir things, feel free to continue hating me the most.
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Post by jewbird on Dec 4, 2007 21:41:01 GMT -5
Well, it probably would be offensive to me if it wasn't quite as stupid. The law should have nothing to do with religion, separation of church and state, remember? Anyway, Sam, you seriously need to get out and get laid. But I know that might be difficult, since there's no cheap whore in the world cheap enough to take pity on you. God takes pity on me. Cheap whores are the ones who avoid me because they feel insulted, but otherwise "have time for everyone." Their pity and their cheapness thusfly flows.
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Post by daisypukes on Dec 4, 2007 21:54:44 GMT -5
^Seriously, Sam, go at least TRY to get a hooker to go to bed with you. If you can manage getting the nastiest, ugliest, cheapest prostitute on the planet to do you that favor (even if it takes every cent in your bank account to entice her) it'll be worth it. You need the release. @long: I never said you were on the top of my s*** list to begin with. Don't be so arrogant. And when it comes to men being chauvinistic to sexually liberated women, in the end it's always political. The word "whore" has a lot of political connotations to it. I don't take it personally anymore, because I know that if I do I'm just letting it get to me. And what's the point of that?
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Post by long on Dec 4, 2007 22:56:29 GMT -5
@long: I never said you were on the top of my sh*t list to begin with. Don't be so arrogant. And when it comes to men being chauvinistic to sexually liberated women, in the end it's always political. The word "whore" has a lot of political connotations to it. I don't take it personally anymore, because I know that if I do I'm just letting it get to me. And what's the point of that? - Perhaps you should revisit the language you blessed me with in the sexy thread, it topped the hostility charts as far as what I've seen during my short time on EAN, from anyone to anyone... who could be lower on your list? Arrogant?... it's certainly not something I'd be proud of, perhaps you could stick me with self-absorbed but that's a stretch. Just 'cause you think it's political doesn't mean he meant it to be, but maybe he did, how do I know...
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Post by daisypukes on Dec 4, 2007 23:12:12 GMT -5
^Sweetie, you haven't been here that long, unless you have some previous SN that I'm not aware of (I've had several previous SNs), you're not the first, you're not the last, and you're certainly not the top person on my s*** list.
It doesn't matter how a man means it, the word "whore" is always a subjugation of female empowerment, it is always political. And in Sam's case, I'm pretty certain he meant it (at least subconsciously) in a political way. I am saying I'm pro-choice. I am clearly announcing that I'm a woman who feels she is the sole owner of her body and at the same time that I am sexually active and have no shame in it. He is threatened and is reacting in a very typical male chauvinist fashion: he's trying to cut me down into some caricature of feminity in the most sexist way possible. To male chauvinist pigs, a woman is either a "whore" or a "nice girl." His mind can't grasp the idea of a woman being a fully functioning human being, one who is both sexual and intelligent and classy, etc. In his mind if you're a woman who takes control of your sexuality, then your sexuality is all you are. And then you're a dirty whore and that's the end of it. Explain to me how that could be construed as anything other than political?
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Post by long on Dec 4, 2007 23:17:36 GMT -5
You could construe it as moral instead of gender politics. As long as he's against male promiscuity. I'll let him speak for himself from here on though.
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Post by daisypukes on Dec 4, 2007 23:20:40 GMT -5
No, I doubt it. As I've already said, I've argued with Sam before. I have a pretty clear vision of his perspective of gender politics. He may frown at male promiscuity as well as female promiscuity, but I highly doubt the former makes him quite as angry as the latter.
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Post by jewbird on Dec 4, 2007 23:29:28 GMT -5
^Seriously, Sam, go at least TRY to get a hooker to go to bed with you. If you can manage getting the nastiest, ugliest, cheapest prostitute on the planet to do you that favor (even if it takes every cent in your bank account to entice her) it'll be worth it. You need the release. Now by what otherworldly power do you claim to know what I "need?" Is it your infinite knowledge of the nature of good and evil? Interestingly, the words "chauvinistic" and "sexually liberated" are also politically-charged. But only chauvanistic men talking about sexually liberated women play gender politics.
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Post by daisypukes on Dec 4, 2007 23:34:19 GMT -5
I can only presume what you need by the way you present yourself. Men who exhibit a lot of pent up anger to women generally haven't f**ked that many. I never pretended that I don't play gender politics. Though I'd be quick to point out that in this situation I'm reacting to your gender politics more than anything else.
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Post by jewbird on Dec 4, 2007 23:36:02 GMT -5
^Sweetie, you haven't been here that long, unless you have some previous SN that I'm not aware of (I've had several previous SNs), you're not the first, you're not the last, and you're certainly not the top person on my sh*t list. It doesn't matter how a man means it, the word "whore" is always a subjugation of female empowerment, it is always political. And in Sam's case, I'm pretty certain he meant it (at least subconsciously) in a political way. I am saying I'm pro-choice. I am clearly announcing that I'm a woman who feels she is the sole owner of her body and at the same time that I am sexually active and have no shame in it. He is threatened and is reacting in a very typical male chauvinist fashion: he's trying to cut me down into some caricature of feminity in the most sexist way possible. To male chauvinist pigs, a woman is either a "whore" or a "nice girl." His mind can't grasp the idea of a woman being a fully functioning human being, one who is both sexual and intelligent and classy, etc. In his mind if you're a woman who takes control of your sexuality, then your sexuality is all you are. And then you're a dirty whore and that's the end of it. Explain to me how that could be construed as anything other than political? It is political. From the 70's. Score one for the NGO financiers. Make sure the easily-suggestible lower classes are "sexually liberated" and aren't too interested in reproducing.
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Post by daisypukes on Dec 4, 2007 23:41:15 GMT -5
Awww, now you're going for the class button too. How cute.
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Post by jewbird on Dec 4, 2007 23:41:18 GMT -5
I can only presume what you need by the way you present yourself. Men who exhibit a lot of pent up anger to women generally haven't f**ked that many. I've f***ed some, but that's not the point. Look, you can do what you want. If you're a cheap whore, it bothers me not in the least. In fact, why don't you PM me with your contact details. What bothers me is when it's someone I care about. What you did was sidestep the issue more than anything else, trying to use the rhetoric of the 70's against me, as though I give a s***.
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Post by long on Dec 4, 2007 23:42:59 GMT -5
It is political. From the 70's. Score one for the NGO financiers. Make sure the easily-suggestible lower classes are "sexually liberated" and aren't too interested in reproducing. - Hmm, the lower classes reproduce the most fruitfully.. no?
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Post by jewbird on Dec 4, 2007 23:43:10 GMT -5
Awww, now you're going for the class button too. How cute. Workers of the world, unite.
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Post by long on Dec 4, 2007 23:44:15 GMT -5
I've f**ked some, but that's not the point. Look, you can do what you want. If you're a cheap whore, it bothers me not in the least. In fact, why don't you PM me with your contact details. What bothers me is when it's someone I care about. - Don't encourage the cheap whores. Screwing cheap whores makes you a cheap whore, yes?
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