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Post by jewbird on Dec 4, 2007 23:46:03 GMT -5
It is political. From the 70's. Score one for the NGO financiers. Make sure the easily-suggestible lower classes are "sexually liberated" and aren't too interested in reproducing. - Hmm, the lower classes reproduce the most fruitfully.. no? That's precisely what the bankers saw and have been trying to do something about. On the other hand, to the extent that people can resist the brainwashing of the animals, there may be a place for them as servants in the NWO.
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Post by jewbird on Dec 4, 2007 23:47:41 GMT -5
I've f**ked some, but that's not the point. Look, you can do what you want. If you're a cheap whore, it bothers me not in the least. In fact, why don't you PM me with your contact details. What bothers me is when it's someone I care about. - Don't encourage the cheap whores. Screwing cheap whores makes you a cheap whore, yes? Not if you're a man.
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Post by long on Dec 4, 2007 23:49:28 GMT -5
Well, engaging in love acts with those for whom I have contempt would make me feel pretty contemptuous of myself. Try it for yourself and let me know how it feels!
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Post by daisypukes on Dec 5, 2007 0:26:47 GMT -5
^Sex is not always an act of love.
@jewbird: I really don't care whether I fit your definition of a "cheap whore." But simply the anger it takes to use that kind of phrase denotes that you DO care. You care that you can't control women, that women have personal volition. That bothers you...Tell me, what does it make you feel? *strokes goatee thoughtfully*
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Post by long on Dec 5, 2007 0:39:21 GMT -5
Shall I rephrase for you? Having sex with someone for whom I have contempt makes me pathetic. I can have sex with people whom I respect. Why would I settle for less? I'd rather keep it to myself... I respect myself after all.
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Post by daisypukes on Dec 5, 2007 0:41:32 GMT -5
Sex can be a lot more fun when it's with someone you can't stand. True story.
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Post by long on Dec 5, 2007 0:44:39 GMT -5
If a large part of the fun is giving pleasure to your partner then this is an impossibility. If you're a sadist I s'pose I can see you having a point. I will psychoanalyze you based on the above statement.
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Post by daisypukes on Dec 5, 2007 0:52:42 GMT -5
BDSM is fun too (as long as you don't act like a moron and wear a bunch of stupid, tacky outfits). And you can get pleasure from giving pleasure to someone you can't stand. And vice versa. As long as they're hot.
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Post by long on Dec 5, 2007 0:59:32 GMT -5
I just don't see how it wouldn't always be preferable to be with someone you respect. I see this as an issue of self-respect.
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Post by daisypukes on Dec 5, 2007 1:07:29 GMT -5
Sex should be dirty. That's the way it was meant to be. Having sex with some hot person who you don't respect is dirty. So that makes it more fun. It's not that difficult to understand. I'm not knocking having sex with someone you care about, that can be exciting too, just not in the same way.
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Post by long on Dec 5, 2007 1:22:32 GMT -5
The need to view it as dirty seems to me immature and perhaps suggestive of deeper emotional issues or christianity-influenced hang-ups... why do you need or want to feel dirty? It's not dirty, it's beautiful, even if you want it to be dirty (IMHO). It certainly doesn't have to be dirty to be intense, in fact I doubt there's any correlation. Since I respect myself it is beyond my understanding why I'd want to introduce contempt and 'dirtiness' into one of the things I find most beautiful. To each his own, naturally. Just don't complain about not being able to find someone you respect if the ability to feel contempt is something you're actively seeking.
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Post by jewbird on Dec 5, 2007 1:47:46 GMT -5
^Sex is not always an act of love. @jewbird: I really don't care whether I fit your definition of a "cheap whore." But simply the anger it takes to use that kind of phrase denotes that you DO care. You care that you can't control women, that women have personal volition. That bothers you...Tell me, what does it make you feel? *strokes goatee thoughtfully*It makes me feel that Muslims are correct when they talk about the lack of values of Western civilization, inasmuch as that empowers whores and denigrates the virtuous.
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Post by jewbird on Dec 5, 2007 1:50:19 GMT -5
The need to view it as dirty seems to me immature and perhaps suggestive of deeper emotional issues or christianity-influenced hang-ups... why do you need or want to feel dirty? It's not dirty, it's beautiful, even if you want it to be dirty (IMHO). It certainly doesn't have to be dirty to be intense, in fact I doubt there's any correlation. Since I respect myself it is beyond my understanding why I'd want to introduce contempt and 'dirtiness' into one of the things I find most beautiful. To each his own, naturally. Just don't complain about not being able to find someone you respect if the ability to feel contempt is something you're actively seeking. This is why, according to the patriarchal definition of whatevers, that's therefore why there are good girls and bad girls. Our mutual friend is one of the bad girls: she's a worthless f***toy skank, because that's how she likes it.
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Post by daisypukes on Dec 5, 2007 2:06:22 GMT -5
@jewbird: Values are not one size fits all, we all have our own values and our own morals. Yours are in no way superior to mine. And it is quite possible for a woman to use a man as a f***toy, I am not one to be used.
@long: It's not a need to view it as dirty. I don't have to view sex as dirty to have fun, but sometimes viewing sex as dirty is fun, too. It's not an either or situation. I see that you are very vanilla when it comes to sex, but then I couldn't have expected any other attitude from a person who refers to sex automatically as a "love act."
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Post by daisypukes on Dec 5, 2007 2:23:06 GMT -5
I have morals, sweetie, I just don't go around trying to enforce my morals onto other people. Do you really believe that just because you're bigotted and judgmental that means your morals are superior? Sorry, but my morals are far superior, in most part because I don't try to enforce them on anyone else. They are my guide in how I myself behave, but I don't judge other people who act differently. And, if anything, I use men in exactly the same way that they are using me. So, if we're all using each other it's a fair trade. There's no exploitation when both parties get what they want and don't give anything they don't want to give. I do just as I please, that's the thing that bothers you the most.
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