social ranking of ethnicities

[love]

i was in the social loop with a whole bunch of strangers at work and a interesting conversation came up about social status among ethncities.

---for whites

upper class
northern europeans
e.g french, swedish, germans, etc..

lower classs
e.g Irish, russians. etc..

---asians

upper class
e.g japanese, koreans

middle class,
e.g chinese

lower class,
e.g cambodian, viets, Thai etc

even lower class,
e.g Filipinos,

----blacks
upper class
e.g south africans blacks, etc

lower class
e.g Zimbawae etc...

what you think about this?

[buff]

You're obviously sourgraping on Filipinos because your pinoy ex dumped you.

You've got the asian social class in reverse. filipinos are not really fully asians, they have somewhat euro-spanish mixed and culture, so like how many eas feel on this site, they are more unique, different/superiors to full asian s
And the Asians that resort to Facial plastic surgery are the most lower class because they are insecure with themselves and how they look - meaning they hate their ethnic faces and the only way they can accept themselves is by changing their ethnic faces or probably cover themselves with branded vanities so that people will perceive them as rich though they have high credit card debt - too much insecurities indeed.

[Mr Brad Pitt]

Err... Germans and French are not Northern Europeans.

[jewbird]

China is held back by the fact that the animals are running the farm.

[Mr Brad Pitt]

sam said:

China is held back by the fact that the animals are running the farm.

Nice one

[long]

What was the racial makeup of this group?

Just depends on who you ask naturally. Thais and British are the bestest.

[dynamicken]

That list applies only to those who let society define their value for them.

I can't speak for the Africans, but with respect to Asians, that's about right.

Europeans are so mixed and dispersed that trying to rank them ethnically is silly. Your list there is probably more a list of "historical achievements" than contemporary social value.

[dynamicken]

sam said:

China is held back by the fact that the animals are running the farm.

Witty.

But if you actually understood Chinese politics at even the undergraduate level, I'd be shocked as hell.

The newspaper << undergrad understanding.

[halfbreed]

This list is, like, sooooooo unPC, but I generally agree. The only thing I disagree with is the Koreans being ranked higher than Chinese. I think they should be on the same level.

[SecretAsianMan]

klacoste said:

It's up to each nation to battle to the top. Real power isn't given. It's taken.

A small country cannot contend with a great; the few cannot contend with the many; the weak cannot contend with the strong. - Mencius

No truer words have ever been spoken. Nothing has changed from Mencius's time: weaker nations continue to be exploited viciously and mercilessly by the world's powers. Want clout? Then join the ranks of the world's leading industrial/economic powers. Big deal.

Now I must say that the original poster's message comes off as a troll attempt. His "social status" ranking mentions nothing about the criteria, let alone the context. Were they chatting about relative standards of living? Other economic indicators of those nations? Or were they getting at some sort of innate racial superiority ranking?

love said:

i was in the social loop with a whole bunch of strangers at work and a interesting conversation came up about social status among ethncities.

---for whites

upper class
northern europeans
e.g french, swedish, germans, etc..
<snip>
what you think about this?

Sounds an awful lot like the old Germanic/Anglo-Saxon Protestant superiority ethos prevalent during (and somewhat after) the colonial era. White Man's Burden anyone? Interesting group that this fellow works with...

Dell needs to learn how to ask more precise questions.

[jewbird]

dynamicken said:

sam said:

China is held back by the fact that the animals are running the farm.

Witty.

But if you actually understood Chinese politics at even the undergraduate level, I'd be shocked as hell.

The newspaper << undergrad understanding.

Worthless-ass filthy animals, who in a perfect world would be beheaded along with their entire families instead have chauffered A6s. What's not to understand?

Ironically, I did in fact minor in Chinese studies as an undergraduate. It is you, I think, who needs to read more.

China will surpass America when North Korea surpasses South Korea.

edit: and if we took North Korea, rather than South Korea as our defining model of Korea as we do with China, we should think Koreans to be the most backwards and inferior race on the planet.

[jewbird]

secretasianman said:

klacoste said:

It's up to each nation to battle to the top. Real power isn't given. It's taken.

A small country cannot contend with a great; the few cannot contend with the many; the weak cannot contend with the strong. - Mencius

No truer words have ever been spoken. Nothing has changed from Mencius's time: weaker nations continue to be exploited viciously and mercilessly by the world's powers. Want clout? Then join the ranks of the world's leading industrial/economic powers. Big deal.

The statement is untrue. How was Japan able to conquer its neighbors then? Just goes to show what Mencius knew.

If you're a large country in terms of absolute numbers, you can use that as a negotiating chip to bring in the wisdom of your betters, but that doesn't make you anything yourself until you can demonstrate that you actually learned something.

Now I must say that the original poster's message comes off as a troll attempt. His "social status" ranking mentions nothing about the criteria, let alone the context. Were they chatting about relative standards of living? Other economic indicators of those nations? Or were they getting at some sort of innate racial superiority ranking?

The same way US News compiles its academic rankings.

love said:

i was in the social loop with a whole bunch of strangers at work and a interesting conversation came up about social status among ethncities.

---for whites

upper class
northern europeans
e.g french, swedish, germans, etc..
<snip>
what you think about this?

Sounds an awful lot like the old Germanic/Anglo-Saxon Protestant superiority ethos prevalent during (and somewhat after) the colonial era. White Man's Burden anyone? Interesting group that this fellow works with...

Dell needs to learn how to ask more precise questions.

I believe in the concept of manifest destiny. It is the order of things that gods should rule over men and that men should rule over beasts.

[SecretAsianMan]

sam said:

secretasianman said:

No truer words have ever been spoken. Nothing has changed from Mencius's time: weaker nations continue to be exploited viciously and mercilessly by the world's powers. Want clout? Then join the ranks of the world's leading industrial/economic powers. Big deal.

The statement is untrue. How was Japan able to conquer its neighbors then? Just goes to show what Mencius knew.

Huh? Japan was industrialized, which started with the Meiji Restoration. It was already a formidable military power shortly after the turn of the century when the rest of Asia consisted of exploited colonies and pre-industrial nations. Japan even possessed general naval superiority over the United States up until the Battle of Midway in WW2 (thanks in part to Pearl Harbor). What are you talking about?

[long]

He was talking about Japan being small. Yeah, that quote is lame.

"A small country cannot contend with a great; the few cannot contend with the many; the weak cannot contend with the strong." - Mencius

- The few can be strong, the few can be great. This quote loses, it's just that easy.

[SecretAsianMan]

chakkaphak said:

He was talking about Japan being small. Yeah, that quote is lame.

Since when was Japan a small country? In 1939, only China, India (part of the British Empire), the USSR, and the U.S. had larger populations. What are you talking about? The real point is that Japan was already a nation with a large industrial base and large, modern military.

Anyway, I've never heard anyone argue that countries like Japan, the United States, and Soviet Union/Russia were small nations in modern times. In Europe, former colonial powers Germany, France, and the U.K. are the largest. In Asia, the nuclear powers are China, India, and Pakistan. Am I missing something here? I'm done and officially disgusted with this thread.