Jessica Alba doesnt want to be labeled latina.

[Orangina]

juancarlos said:

Uhhhhhhhm, if you haven't found out already, in real life, feelings do NOT equal facts. Putting that aside, I don't care if Alba does not want to be considered Latina. But she did NOT have to slander an entire group of people (Mexicans) in talking about herself.

The nuance lies in the facts that :
- her whole education is not latino, so she can say she's not.
- her bloodline is not entirely mexican (according to Wikipedia), so if it's that fact which solely matters for you, well she's not latino either.

Maybe this quote did shock you :
"I've got cousins galore. Mexicans just spread all their seeds. And the women just pop them out."
Seems tough, but I don't fully understand it.

[juancarlos]

orangina said:

juancarlos said:

Uhhhhhhhm, if you haven't found out already, in real life, feelings do NOT equal facts. Putting that aside, I don't care if Alba does not want to be considered Latina. But she did NOT have to slander an entire group of people (Mexicans) in talking about herself.

The nuance lies in the facts that :
- her whole education is not latino, so she can say she's not.
- her bloodline is not entirely mexican (according to Wikipedia), so if it's that fact which solely matters for you, well she's not latino either.

Maybe this quote did shock you :
"I've got cousins galore. Mexicans just spread all their seeds. And the women just pop them out."
Seems tough, but I don't fully understand it.

So, what did you NOT fully understand?

[catgirl]

chinesejewfool said:

Mexico has whites in the media doesn't make them a white country.

Phillipines is obsessed with Mestizos in the media, does that mean they are white? It's just that whites control a lot of the media.

Look how many Jews are in movies. You'd think the US would be packed with jews, but that's not the case. It's just that many producers and movie companies are run by Jews.

Asians have white looking people to (eurasianish), but asians are still asian. I think some of the mexican people can be mixed with european blood, causing some of the to look more whiteish.

[catgirl]

Eva Longoria has mexican heritage. She looks mexican too.

[j3aN62]

From the pics, Eva Langoria, she might look Italian, Spaniard, or north African. Even plain european, but mediterranean look.

By the way, from their birth date, I'm a bit worried, cause Parker is rooster, and Langoria cat, not the best compatibility from what I know.

[Ajeno]

curlytop said:

I thought I was clear that I know many mestizos and mulattos have Euro features in Latin America so that's why I believe Filipinos and Ecuatorial Guineans aren't included because Fil and Ec. Guinea don't have sizeable mestizos, mulattos, or whites. They're missing that sizeable white blood

Have you ever asked a Fillipino person if they consider themselves latino or not? And do The mestizo's in the phillipines consider themselves latino Isnt there also a debate about if they should even be called asian or something? And why do you want them to be labeled latino so badly

There are alot of dark latinos with little white blood who dont really consider white looking mestizos latino so it can go either way.

curlytop said:

Yes, I knew a redheaded Peruvian who wasn't initially seen as latino but then I have heard a few times "Ella es morena pero linda" You don't hear "Ella es blanca pero linda or Ella es mestiza pero linda." Then I've heard "Ella era rubia pero se caso con un negro. No entiendo. Podia tener cualquier hombre pero escogio un negro." Then locals are shocked when the German and white American tourists want the Indian or black guys or girls over the supposedly more "beautiful" Euro-mestizos or whites. Then the Argentineans say "We are beautiful and not Indios like the Bolivans and Peruvians. Oh well, that's my experience.

Ive heard it both ways.Dark latinos getting pissed when someone dark marries or goes out with a white looking hispanic so.And from what ive heard Argentineans can be pretty racist.

curlytop said:

Do you mean the USA or the Americas? American winners/contestants are diverse looking granted this has been only in the past 25 years. Latin American winners tend to look European.

Theres alot of different latin-pageants if i remember.The last one i saw had all different types of woman in it.But in general the woman in pageants never look like the majority of woman from that country so what are you gonna do.And I think you might have a slightly skewed image of what people throughout Latin-America look like no offense.

curlytop said:

Whose fault is it that Mexican and Peruvian soap operas are filled with actors who look European but the comediennes can look Indian? I see more diverse faces on American TV or even European TV.

What novelas are you watching? And im always curious as to why non-latinos or people who dont speak spanish watch these shows because theyre cheesy and stupid.I dunno i guess since you speak spanish maybe you like em?.And Im seeing more diversity in these shows now a days though but yeah i dont know why they are the way they are.

curlytop said:

Haven't met them but yeah Salma Hayek thinks J. Lo is less Latina because *gasp* J. Lo is American from the Bronx and her Spanish isn't as good because duh, J. Lo is American. Love Salma but she comes off as snooty.

Salma is more of a bonehead than j-lo is IMO..J-lo is constantly getting booed off stages in puerto rico i hear because the people there dont like how she represents them.Salma is now considered a sell-out because she married a white guy from what i understand.

curlytop said:

Yes. I've met unmixed Chino-Peruvians. I've met a half China/half mulatta Honduran. I've met part Japanese/mestizo Colombians. Met part Chinese/Spanish Ticos. They all were Latinos.

But Latino/hispanic isn't a race but a culture. Latinos can be of any race or mixture.

Yeah ive met some too and yes im aware latino/hispanic is not a race but to many it is.I consider anyone who says theyre latino to be latino so it doesnt matter to me.

[Ajeno]

orangina said:

The nuance lies in the facts that :
- her whole education is not latino, so she can say she's not.
- her bloodline is not entirely mexican (according to Wikipedia), so if it's that fact which solely matters for you, well she's not latino either.

Maybe this quote did shock you :
"I've got cousins galore. Mexicans just spread all their seeds. And the women just pop them out."
Seems tough, but I don't fully understand it.

Her comments show that she was brought up to be ashamed and doesnt consider herself half either.Sources say, she is legally an oompa loompa

[catgirl]

jean62 said:

From the pics, Eva Langoria, she might look Italian, Spaniard, or north African. Even plain european, but mediterranean look.

By the way, from their birth date, I'm a bit worried, cause Parker is rooster, and Langoria cat, not the best compatibility from what I know.

Lol. Do you believe in that? hmm. Western astrology might say something else? Ive never managed to understand asian astrology. They have very few ways of reading...Or what do you think?

[catgirl]

ajeno said:

curlytop said:

I thought I was clear that I know many mestizos and mulattos have Euro features in Latin America so that's why I believe Filipinos and Ecuatorial Guineans aren't included because Fil and Ec. Guinea don't have sizeable mestizos, mulattos, or whites. They're missing that sizeable white blood

Have you ever asked a Fillipino person if they consider themselves latino or not? And do The mestizo's in the phillipines consider themselves latino Isnt there also a debate about if they should even be called asian or something? And why do you want them to be labeled latino so badly

There are alot of dark latinos with little white blood who dont really consider white looking mestizos latino so it can go either way.



Ive heard it both ways.Dark latinos getting pissed when someone dark marries or goes out with a white looking hispanic so.And from what ive heard Argentineans can be pretty racist.



Theres alot of different latin-pageants if i remember.The last one i saw had all different types of woman in it.But in general the woman in pageants never look like the majority of woman from that country so what are you gonna do.And I think you might have a slightly skewed image of what people throughout Latin-America look like no offense.



What novelas are you watching? And im always curious as to why non-latinos or people who dont speak spanish watch these shows because theyre cheesy and stupid.I dunno i guess since you speak spanish maybe you like em?.And Im seeing more diversity in these shows now a days though but yeah i dont know why they are the way they are.




Salma is more of a bonehead than j-lo is IMO..J-lo is constantly getting booed off stages in puerto rico i hear because the people there dont like how she represents them.Salma is now considered a sell-out because she married a white guy from what i understand.

curlytop said:

Yes. I've met unmixed Chino-Peruvians. I've met a half China/half mulatta Honduran. I've met part Japanese/mestizo Colombians. Met part Chinese/Spanish Ticos. They all were Latinos.

But Latino/hispanic isn't a race but a culture. Latinos can be of any race or mixture.

Yeah ive met some too and yes im aware latino/hispanic is not a race but to many it is.I consider anyone who says theyre latino to be latino so it doesnt matter to me.

I bet latinos can look as different as eurasians can.

[j3aN62]

catgirl said:

jean62 said:

From the pics, Eva Langoria, she might look Italian, Spaniard, or north African. Even plain european, but mediterranean look.

By the way, from their birth date, I'm a bit worried, cause Parker is rooster, and Langoria cat, not the best compatibility from what I know.

Lol. Do you believe in that? hmm. Western astrology might say something else? Ive never managed to understand asian astrology. They have very few ways of reading...Or what do you think?

It's a disease, I always calculate the signs.

Can't help. And yes I more or less believe in it.

We should start again a chinese zodiac thread. Since most of the EAN participants still don't know about it I think.

[catgirl]

jean62 said:

catgirl said:

Lol. Do you believe in that? hmm. Western astrology might say something else? Ive never managed to understand asian astrology. They have very few ways of reading...Or what do you think?

It's a disease, I always calculate the signs.

Can't help. And yes I more or less believe in it.

We should start again a chinese zodiac thread. Since most of the EAN participants still don't know about it I think.

Ok. That sounds like a good idea. Would like to know a little more about it. I think Im a wood ox? hmmm.

I know a alot about western astrology, I think...There are alot of things about my astrological chart that I can refer to, strangely enough.

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Fire horse

[chinesejewfool]

curlytop said:

chinesejewfool said:

Look how many Jews are in movies. You'd think the US would be packed with jews, but that's not the case. It's just that many producers and movie companies are run by Jews.

On Friday evenings and Saturdays while driving and making constant stops at crosswalks, I realize how many Jews live in my city. Are you Jewish? I don't like Jewish food unless it's presented by a Russian (blintzes, perogies, stuffed cabbage). I eat a lot of Russian food so one time a Puerto Rican New Yorker thought I was Jewish. ;D

Don't understand why American Jews don't cook as well as Eastern Europeans. Isn't the food similar

Where do you live? New York? Well there are almost as many Jews there as in Israel so no wonder.

California not too many but a decent number.

Am I jewish? Half Jewish. I don't follow the religion...then again I don't follow any religion. I believe in myself

Jewish food has its roots all over Europe. So there really isn't such a thing as Jewish food. Of course you have a few here and there, with kosher preparation, but it's nothing like say Chinese food, or viet food, or whatever regional food. It's okay, nothing special.

[chinesejewfool]

catgirl said:

chinesejewfool said:

Mexico has whites in the media doesn't make them a white country.

Phillipines is obsessed with Mestizos in the media, does that mean they are white? It's just that whites control a lot of the media.

Look how many Jews are in movies. You'd think the US would be packed with jews, but that's not the case. It's just that many producers and movie companies are run by Jews.

Asians have white looking people to (eurasianish), but asians are still asian. I think some of the mexican people can be mixed with european blood, causing some of the to look more whiteish.

Most Mexicans are pretty damn dark though. I live in California, which is probably 30% mexican by census, but more like 50-60% if you count illegals, and the region I live in, and most are dark, and you can clearly tell they are Mexican.

The ones that are more light skinned tend to intermarry with whites it seems.

But you'd think that you'd have more dark mexicans in TV but you don't.

Oh well, I like Shakira

[j3aN62]

catgirl said:

jean62 said:

It's a disease, I always calculate the signs.

Can't help. And yes I more or less believe in it.

We should start again a chinese zodiac thread. Since most of the EAN participants still don't know about it I think.

Ok. That sounds like a good idea. Would like to know a little more about it. I think Im a wood ox? hmmm.

I know a alot about western astrology, I think...There are alot of things about my astrological chart that I can refer to, strangely enough.

One more thread created for chinese zodiac :

eurasiannation.proboards48.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=language&thread=1183024167