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Post by sim on Mar 22, 2011 21:45:07 GMT -5
Oh, and this one rules out most British guys....
Guys who live and breathe football (soccer) or are real hardcore 'rugga buggas'.
I don't mind if you enjoy it, watch it sometimes, play it, etc but if you are always either watching football on TV or the internet/spending your weekends travelling to watch football/running a fantasy football team like one ex-colleague of mine then you are most definitely not my type. (I think he spent his honeymoon at the world cup)
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Post by sim on Mar 22, 2011 23:26:46 GMT -5
^ not necessarily an immediate turn-off... it might be something that's fairly innocuous and only festers later after you're already hooked up. Wears tons of make-up I'm sure that face paint meant something 18 million years ago when we looked like monkeys and danced around a fire to celebrate puberty, but today I just fail to see the point, much less the fuss and obsession, of putting all sorts of crap on our faces and goop in our hair habitually. The worst is when you raise the topic (after you're left waiting multiple times outside their door for 30mins+ while they get ready) and they say "I don't do it for you or others, I do it for myself". YEAH RIGHT. Sorry, but beyond a certain smidgen amount, it all boils down to either vanity/superficiality or insecurity. No other explanation. /rant (for now  ) I'd disagree with that. I do believe that most girls feel comfortable with *some* make up on; there is no point in walking out and not feeling confident in yourself. In a way makeup as well is associated with looking after yourself/grooming etc. Additionally- it can cover really bad blemishes e.g. birth marks, scars, etc and I don't see anything wrong with that if it makes someone feel better and more ready to 'face the world'. It also definitely, in the workplace, is associated with a more 'groomed' look. A colleague told me over lunch the other day that she was wondering why I suddenly had taken to wearing my glasses more frequently AND had zero mascara on (I had some unknown eye infection). I didn't realise she had noticed my lack of mascara(!) but she said she thought it was because I couldn't be bothered or something and was being lazy !!!!  It's also sometimes just fun to slap it all on...but then I like playing dress up and it's always a relief to take it all off again at the end of the night. I do think that some ladies in HK go overboard though. Having seen the 'girls checking out girls' looks in the gym, I think it's because there is such competition in HK to look better than the next girl as men here tend to treat women as pretty disposable objects. I guess the thought is that if you look better than the other girls, you're likely to get the guy. Meh, I don't know. I think some of them should win a medal for the sheer amount of time they spend applying their makeup...I couldn't spend THAT long everyday without getting fed up. |
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Post by LaFace on Mar 23, 2011 11:20:01 GMT -5
^ not necessarily an immediate turn-off... it might be something that's fairly innocuous and only festers later after you're already hooked up. Wears tons of make-up I'm sure that face paint meant something 18 million years ago when we looked like monkeys and danced around a fire to celebrate puberty, but today I just fail to see the point, much less the fuss and obsession, of putting all sorts of crap on our faces and goop in our hair habitually. The worst is when you raise the topic (after you're left waiting multiple times outside their door for 30mins+ while they get ready) and they say "I don't do it for you or others, I do it for myself". YEAH RIGHT. Sorry, but beyond a certain smidgen amount, it all boils down to either vanity/superficiality or insecurity. No other explanation. /rant (for now ) I'd disagree with that. I do believe that most girls feel comfortable with *some* make up on; there is no point in walking out and not feeling confident in yourself. In a way makeup as well is associated with looking after yourself/grooming etc. Additionally- it can cover really bad blemishes e.g. birth marks, scars, etc and I don't see anything wrong with that if it makes someone feel better and more ready to 'face the world'. It also definitely, in the workplace, is associated with a more 'groomed' look. A colleague told me over lunch the other day that she was wondering why I suddenly had taken to wearing my glasses more frequently AND had zero mascara on (I had some unknown eye infection). I didn't realise she had noticed my lack of mascara(!) but she said she thought it was because I couldn't be bothered or something and was being lazy !!!! It's also sometimes just fun to slap it all on...but then I like playing dress up and it's always a relief to take it all off again at the end of the night. I do think that some ladies in HK go overboard though. Having seen the 'girls checking out girls' looks in the gym, I think it's because there is such competition in HK to look better than the next girl as men here tend to treat women as pretty disposable objects. I guess the thought is that if you look better than the other girls, you're likely to get the guy. Meh, I don't know. I think some of them should win a medal for the sheer amount of time they spend applying their makeup...I couldn't spend THAT long everyday without getting fed up. Your post seems to verify that it does boil down to doing it for other people (rather than 'myself') and insecurity. Everything you've listed allows for a greater sense of security in one's self because of the way that other people will view you in the first place. This isn't just about makeup but all ways of presenting yourself. We do it to make ourselves feel more confident, but only because of how our presentation initially affects the way we are viewed. I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. I think there's a normal range for how heavily a female will use makeup (or for how a person will 'get ready'), and then there's an area outside of this range at opposite/extreme ends of the spectrum where by such a degree of preparation becomes unreasonable - on one hand there is never ever grooming yourself at all (makeup or otherwise), and on the other hand there is over-grooming yourself for the context of the occasion. If we're going out on a date to a fancy restaurant for example then I would expect us to put effort into the way we present ourselves. I'd be uncomfortable if my partner didn't. On the other hand, if we're popping in to the local shops to get groceries or go on a run together, I'd be uncomfortable if I first had to wait a long time because she had to spend as much time on doing her hair and makeup as she otherwise would. In saying that, I realise that the term 'a long time' is open to interpretation |
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Post by admin on Mar 23, 2011 15:37:00 GMT -5
Quality makeup will also protect the skin by moisturizing, UV blocking, and keeping contaminants at bay. All this helps to preserve the underlying natural looks.
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Post by anothername on Mar 23, 2011 17:55:37 GMT -5
Asking guys to care about makeup is like asking women to care about cars. I agree that there were times when the job I had required me to wear a lot of makeup, but usually as you climb up the ladder, that goes away. It only bothers me in a relationship when someone expects the other person to look a certain way. |
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Post by sim on Mar 23, 2011 19:52:39 GMT -5
I think actually makeup in a job becomes MORE important as you climb the ladder- not only because you are getting older and therefore usually tend to need it more!
Additionally, the higher up you are the more presentable you need to be- more big seminars or more 'important' clients etc. You also tend (in my field) to do none of the actual work won (or not do it as well) and spend your life schmoozing away, and building those 'relationships'...although I guess to a degree that is kind of expected to be done at all levels. People judge on first impression, and in the world of work you can't really change that.
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Post by anothername on Mar 24, 2011 3:54:40 GMT -5
I disagree, beyond a certain point it detracts from your job and looks like you are trying too hard. Usually you have to try harder in this department right out of school when everyone has the same qualifications as you and the only thing to set you apart is appearance and working hard. I can relate to relationship building, but any business relationship based on how much your face is made up is not one worth keeping imo.
First impressions are important, I was a late bloomer in this department so I had to catch up, and women are expected to do more, but it can be taken too far.
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Post by sim on Mar 24, 2011 4:54:25 GMT -5
^^ I'm not saying slap it on! I'm saying a bit of mascara/blusher whatver keeps you from looking at least like you just rolled out of bed and threw on your work clothes!!!
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Post by anothername on Mar 24, 2011 5:32:13 GMT -5
Agreed. |
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Post by helles on Mar 24, 2011 11:12:04 GMT -5
I enjoy make-up, I should probably put more effort in since I live in superficial central!!! I was told today I look much better when I don't wear my glasses (by a friend!).
Pet peeves... hmm. general banker wankers?!
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Post by sim on Mar 24, 2011 11:15:30 GMT -5
^^ yeah, and I was there wearing my glasses when she said it. I thought that was quite funny.
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Post by helles on Mar 24, 2011 11:20:45 GMT -5
just think of the hotness overload when we do go out without glasses on!! i think the world could just about implode... we just wouldn't be able to see it happen!! |
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Post by Szymon Von Zalyn on Apr 2, 2011 5:05:48 GMT -5
Mine is when you answer someones question and they then ask you that same question 3 or 4 times later on. It seems that they are not paying attention to you at all!
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Post by helloagain on Apr 2, 2011 5:48:46 GMT -5
LOL, don't ya just hate when that happens?  |
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